Hi On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:39:41 am Philipp Kern wrote: > On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 08:31:49AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > I do not think removal is the approach that would be best for users. It > > would leave them with an orhpaned, non-working package and they will have > > to upgrade systems to a newer release, install from external sources > > (e.g. volatile), or compile from dource directly. > > > > Updating clamav and needed rdepends to something that upstream supports > > would be more benificial for users. With a half a year of notice, I > > think this is managable. > > > > This is the approach Ubuntu will be taking (they already have a full set > > of updates in their backport repository that is tested and almost ready). > > Especially as there is no use in keeping old versions of a virus scanner > around which cannot be updated anymore and as a sufficient amount of people > do want a virus scanner on their box. > > I ask me, though, how many people are actually using the version Lenny > provides. If they do, they probably do not know it better to use volatile, > or do not trust it because it's not as official as the stable suite is. > Of course we could do a noisy drop of clamav out of Lenny and point people > to volatile, I just wonder if that's actually a disservice to our users. > > For squeeze I see two proposals: > a) Either we could relax the policy for clamav a bit if sufficient upgrade > testing is ensured (like Ubuntu already does, thanks to Scott's work) > or > b) We push volatile to be a really official service alongside the stable > tree residing on our normal infrastructure as a goal for squeeze. > Volatile updates are currently undergoing testing (thanks to the clamav > team) but maybe a coordinated effort in reviewing for stable > suitability of the Ubuntu and Debian counterparts of clamav maintainance > would help us to convince a possible set of people not using volatile yet. I'd like to vote for b) and in such a case the security team is willing to provide full security support for the packages in volatile (which was already agreed upon during the security team's meeting in Germany). Cheers Steffen
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