Hi guys, i installed a second version of Sarge on my other hd and this time just installed Bastille and downloaded the harden-doc which is amazing, so much interesting stuff, which i'm still reading. I ran Bastille thru grc.com to check the ports and all are closed, not invisible but closed. thank you very much, Luis __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com