HI, I am new to IPChains and IPtables I have installed Debian woody but did upgrates and DIST upgrades I don't know if it can change the IPCHAINS to something else? But I still have the Kernel 2.2.20-idepci I am totaly new to Firewalls and I am learnig with the IPCHAINS HOWTO and when I try this (just for learning) ipchains -A input -s 127.0.0.1 -p icmp -j DENY I get this answer: ipchains: Protocol not available