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Re: Hacked - is it my turn? - interesting



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Greetings Rolf,

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 at 06:11:34PM -0500, Rolf Kutz wrote:
> > TCP-Reset..I know.  I am not one that enjoys people breaking RFCs, but
> > in this case it does make *some* sense.  If someone is randomly port
> > scanning class C's and they hit your IP, get no response from an ICMP
> > (1) echo-request (8) and then try a few ports and get no TCP-Resets,
> > they are likely to think you are a dead IP[1].
> 
> You would get a ICMP host-unreachable from the
> last router in that case. 

I don't believe this is always the case.

plhofmei@Oneil:~$ sudo hping 63.165.217.29 -S -p 80
Enter password for SUDO:
HPING 63.165.217.29 (eth0 63.165.217.29): S set, 40 headers + 0 data
bytes

- --- 63.165.217.29 hping statistic ---
56 packets tramitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 0.0/0.0/0.0 ms


plhofmei@Oneil:~$ ping 63.165.217.29
PING 63.165.217.29 (63.165.217.29): 56 data bytes

- --- 63.165.217.29 ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss


I KNOW that IP address is currently not in service (I am the network
admin).

I also did a tcpdump (in the case hping did not report ICMP
host-unreachable received.  No ICMP packets were seen...

It may be the RFC specification that an ICMP host-unreachable be sent,
but in practice this is no where near always the case.

Note: The last router is a Cisco router maintained by an ISP.  No, I am
not on the same subnet as 63.165.219.29.

Take care,

- -- 
Phillip Hofmeister

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