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Re: Some more port closing questions

On Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 07:12:54AM +0900, sen_ml@eccosys.com wrote:
> From: Paul Hampson <Paul.Hampson@anu.edu.au>
> Subject: Re: Some more port closing questions
> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:17:10 +1000

> > On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 07:09:28AM +0900, sen_ml@eccosys.com wrote:
> > > It seems like you could just have a mode w/o many/any questions and a
> > > mode that asks all the questions that are available -- i.e. Beginners
> > > can have a beginner's mode of installation, and non-beginners can have
> > > a non-beginner installation mode...no?

> > You mean like maybe assigning different questions different priorities,
> > and letting the user choose the priority which a question needs to have
> > before it is asked, with some default assumed otherwise?

> No.  Nice description of what exists currently (-;

> I just mean something you choose at the beginning of the installation
> process to circumvent the entire question asking process -- I'm not
> asking for this -- perhaps I should learn not to respond to comments
> in posts w/ "<G>"s in them...

I dunno if that could work, since there'd be questions you _need_
answers for... To my mind, the priorities system _should_ be able to
handle this, if everyone's priorities are correct.

On the other hand, maybe support for a scripted install (get answers
from NFS mounted file <IP>.debanswer or something...). I mean, _that_
is something MS Windows was doing quite well 7 years ago.
The OEM Win95 install process was:
Put NE2K card jumpered to 300/10 into computer.
Put bookdisk into computer.
<Wait 30 minutes or however long it took>
Remove bookdisk and NIC (unless customer purchased a NIC)
Put in box, hand to customer.

When the customer takes it home, Win95 goes
"What's your Name?"
"What's your CD-Key?"
"Welcome to Windows"

If you mean something like that (Probably not that last 'End User
Experience' bit) then it _is_ something Debian's lacking. And it would
certainly help take Debian into the consumer world, especially now that
we've gotten Woody out the door.

Although I still think that such a thing should be achievable with the

> > Excellent idea. I can't see how we could get this far without such a
> > system. ;-)

> Nice sarcasm (-;

(It was sarcasm in a nice way. I didn't think you'd not noticed the
existence of the question priorities. I just thought it sounded
similar enough to be amusing)

PS. I suspect this isn't really a -security discussion anymore. But I
also suspect it's not really going to go much further after this anyway.

Paul "TBBle" Hampson, MCSE
5th year CompSci/Asian Studies student, ANU
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