> you can change user's shell to /dev/null Well... it doesn't look like I can log in via telnet or FTP without a valid login shell. I tried that with various entries other than /dev/null ... KEN -- Kenneth J. Pronovici <pronovic@ieee.org> Personal Homepage: http://www.skyjammer.com/~pronovic/ "The phrase, 'Happy as a clam' has never really held much meaning for me."