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Re: 127.0.0.0/8 addresses from the network



On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 11:11:40PM +0000, Jim Breton wrote:
> Again, I'm not disagreeing with you.  rp_filter and source checking has
> nothing to do with the issue though.  The question posed was about
> packet destinations, and you keep referring to source checks.
 
  Arggghh!  Sorry, you're right.  I was pretty sure that linux checked the
dest of packets before accepting them, so I guess my brain decided to read
it wrong and think you were talking about what I expected you to be a
talking about :(

 I decided to check this out, partly since I owe you one for being an idiot
and not listening to what you told me twice!

 llama   is 10.0.0.1, MAC 00:00:92:96:51:C0.  
 bigfoot is 10.0.0.4, MAC 00:05:02:D4:B7:0A.

  On bigfoot, I used  arp -s  to point a nonexistant IP to the same MAC
address as llama, a linux machine running 2.2.18.


bigfoot:~# arp
Address                  HWtype  HWaddress           Flags Mask  Iface
10.0.0.10                ether   00:00:92:96:51:C0   CM          eth0
llama                    ether   00:00:92:96:51:C0   C           eth0

bigfoot:~# nc 10.0.0.10 25
(UNKNOWN) [10.0.0.10] 25 (smtp) : No route to host


before attempting the connection, I did:
llama:~# tcpdump -p -e -n -i eth1 port ! ssh
tcpdump: listening on eth1
22:03:23.249795 0:5:2:d4:b7:a 0:0:92:96:51:c0 0800 74: 10.0.0.4.3641 >
 10.0.0.10.25: S 1026521176:1026521176(0) win 5840 <mss 1460,sackOK,timestamp
 59103824 0,nop,wscale 0> (DF)
22:03:23.250230 0:0:92:96:51:c0 0:5:2:d4:b7:a 0800 102: 10.0.0.1 > 10.0.0.4:
 icmp: redirect 10.0.0.10 to host 10.0.0.10 [tos 0xc0] 
22:03:23.250502 0:0:92:96:51:c0 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 0806 42: arp who-has 
 10.0.0.10  tell 10.0.0.1
22:03:24.243578 0:0:92:96:51:c0 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 0806 42: arp who-has 
 10.0.0.10 tell 10.0.0.1
22:03:25.243324 0:0:92:96:51:c0 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 0806 42: arp who-has
 10.0.0.10 tell 10.0.0.1
22:03:26.243237 0:0:92:96:51:c0 0:5:2:d4:b7:a 0800 102: 10.0.0.1 > 10.0.0.4:
 icmp: host 10.0.0.10 unreachable [tos 0xc0] 

 Notice that with the interface not in promiscuous mode (-p), tcpdump still
received the SYN packet, but the kernel didn't start a connection.  exim is
listening on *:25, (i.e. INADDR_ANY, not the interface addresses). 
nc 10.0.0.1 25  connects to exim normally.

 It's not so easy to check what happens if you send a packet with a
destination in 127.0.0.0/8, but I'd be surprised if it was accepted.

-- 
#define X(x,y) x##y
Peter Cordes ;  e-mail: X(peter@llama.nslug. , ns.ca)

"The gods confound the man who first found out how to distinguish the hours!
 Confound him, too, who in this place set up a sundial, to cut and hack
 my day so wretchedly into small pieces!" -- Plautus, 200 BCE



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