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Re: stable vs. testing: same versions, different status



On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 19:42:21 -0400 Michael S. Gilbert wrote:

> On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 00:47:08 +0200, Francesco Poli wrote:
[...]
> > I think the above-described automatic mechanism would benefit testing
> > security, especially in the first post-release times, i.e. when the
> > testing-security team claims that no official testing security support
> > can be provided!
> 
> the best course of action here is to use stable-security with a higher
> pin-priority than testing;

I think it would work correctly with the *same* pin-priority as used
for testing and testing-security.

If you used a *higher* pin-priority for stable-security, once you
installed a package from stable-security, you would never upgrade to
more recent package versions that become available in testing.

On the other hand, if you used a *lower* pin-priority for
stable-security, you would never upgrade to a security-wise-fixed
version available in stable-security, even when the currently installed
package (from testing) is identical to the one available in stable.

Hence, I think the pin-priority should be the same.  

> that way if testing still contains the
> same version as stable, then you get the securitized version from
> stable-security instead.

With the same pin-priority, yes.

> 
> of course this is a less-than-desirable situation because most users
> won't go through the trouble.

I think this solution could be viable, but should be considered
sub-optimal, as it would require suggesting all (Debian testing)
end-users to modify their sources.list.

Moreover, the security-tracker would not be aware of this possibility
and would thus go on considering those vulnerabilities as unfixed for
testing.

On the other hand, my proposed automatic stable-security ->
testing-security migration mechanism would fix a number of
vulnerabilities (especially in the first post-release times) for all
Debian testing end-users, in a "gratuitous" manner (from a Debian
Testing Security team point of view, since it would re-use the Debian
Stable Security team effort).


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