Re: Bug#899007: bauble: Depends on unmaintained python-gdata
Hi,
On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 01:49:54PM -0500, Mario Frasca wrote:
> bauble as bauble is indeed dead, both the classic and the web version,
> which by the way never saw light.
>
> → HOWEVER →
>
> → while Debian and ubuntu still distribute the grossly outdated bauble
> 0.9.7, development of bauble went up to version 1.0.56, which is still a
> very decent option.
So we should have strived for this since a long time, right?
> → beyond version 1.0.56 development goes absolutely uninterrupted on,
> now under the name ghini.desktop. the last released version of bauble
> informs the user about ghini.desktop, and its new releases.
>
> → there is no plan to substitute ghini.desktop with a web application:
> there is a ghini.web, which serves a quite different task (integrating
> databases),
>
> → there might come a ghini.web version allowing limited data insertion.
> this is not planned at all at the moment.
>
> → other packages in the Ghini suite are two Android apps.
>
> I have been working at a python3 ghini.desktop version, and hope to
> release it before we reach EOL for python2. I'm stuck with some strange
> delays in database access, which I still need to pin down.
Where is your development done?
> I have not been able to follow all necessary steps to put ghini.desktop
> in Debian format, I'm sorry. once there's a well defined package for
> it, I might be able to keep it up to date, but the initial steps are far
> beyond my limited ability to comply with strict rules.
Why not asking for help?
> Debian Science team? what is it?
Well, there might be people who would tell you that a web search could
be enlightening ;-P - but I'll try with my own words: Debian Science is
a team inside Debian (mailing list in CC) which cares for scientic
software that has no dedicated team behind (like astro, chemestry, GIS
etc.) Its a so called Pure Blend[1] and usually you are well advised to
join this team if you deal with scientific software. I'm personally
very picky to get any software in the field of *micro*biology into
Debian Med since this team tries to cover all in this field. However,
from my perception bauble does not really fit into this.
The Debian Science team has a policy[2] that explains how to do the
packaging in this team. For your comfort I have just commited bauble in
its current state + the fix for its RC bug into Git[3]. I'd volunteer
to make the packaging fully conform to the recent standards (packaging
is quite aged :-(). However, since we are in freeze currently the
changes needed are not really accepted by the release team and thus I
sticked to a minimum set of acceptable changes.
Now I have some questions for you:
1. Would you mind testing the status in Git[3] whether this
works or not (I have neither any idea nor any interest in
this program)?
2. Do you think it is sensible to release Buster with this
status?
If the answer to 2. is
"yes" we can stop for the moment if it is
"no" lets remove it from testing and proceed with upgrading
either to
a) latest version of bauble?
b) latest version of ghini.desktop (may be there is
even a migration path??)
What do you think?
Kind regards
Andreas.
[1] https://www.debian.org/blends/
[2] https://science-team.pages.debian.net/policy/
[3] https://salsa.debian.org/science-team/bauble
> On 17/03/2019 13:05, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote:
> > Hello Andreas,
> >
> > I gave the package to Mario Frasca, which then orphaned the package:
> >
> > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=903644
> >
> > gdata is not the only problem, there are other dependencies (which
> > seems to be more complex to solve). Additionally as far I know there
> > is no interest of upstream to continue such package, which I think it
> > is also reasonable: a web application is a lot better.
> >
> > For my point of view, you can put into Debian Science, but possibly we
> > should let it go.
> >
> > ciao
> > cate
> >
> >
> > On 17.03.19 18:29, Andreas Tille wrote:
> >> Hi Giacomo,
> >>
> >> the bug log states that the files using gdata have been removed
> >> upstream[1]. I'd volunteer to commit this package to Salsa in Debian
> >> Science, apply the needed patch and upload as a team upload if you don't
> >> mind. If I will not hear from you soon I assume you are fine with
> >> the move into Debian Science team.
> >>
> >> Kind regards
> >>
> >> Andreas.
> >>
> >> [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=899007#15
> >>
>
>
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