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Re: Bug#361418: Debian menu and the Apps/Science section



* Daniel Leidert <daniel.leidert.spam@gmx.net> [2006-05-15 01:25:57]:
> > The latter is like:
> > how to do integration or differentiation, waht are Newton's rules in
> > gravity
> > the first is like:
> > when I apply several of the basic rules to these measurements under
> > given constraints
> > then one can proof the existance of a sub-particle for a few nano
> > seconds in nuclear physics.
> 
> Yes. But these are clear examples. I have a repository full of chemistry
> related packages. One e.g. supports a bunch of quantum chemistry
> packages. But it is designed to help users of these packages. The
> application itself doesn't teach anything, but it helps teaching quantum
> chemistry packages. So I just need a clear definition, when to put an
> application into Education and when to put an application into Science.

I'd like to jump in a little bit here. I think this question (should an
app go in Education or Science? or really any category for that matter)
really might be best answered by the software authors themselves. I
think they have a pretty good idea of what the primary purpose of their
app is and what users use it for. This is why I'd like to see a push to
provide .desktop (freedesktop.org compliant [1] and [2]) files to
upstreams who can tweak the Categories if need be.

On the Ubuntu side we made a big push to get .desktop files put in
science apps for Dapper (to be released June 1) since we don't use the
Debian menu system. We added about 45 .desktop files out of the ~450
packages we (MOTU Science team [3]) track. The next task is to get them
upstream at least to Debian (via bug reports) and hopefully to the
software authors. One reason I've pushed for this is that I'd like to
see a Science menu in Gnome. Right now, science apps go in either
Education, Other, or Graphics (for plotting apps) in the Gnome menu and
more often than not they don't show up at all because they have no
.desktop file.

-Jordan Mantha

[1] http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/
[2] http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/
[3] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Teams/Science

-- 
"That's all very well in practice, but will it ever work in theory?" -- G. Hill
"A tidy laboratory means a lazy chemist." -- Jöns Jacob Berzelius



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