Hey Blair, On Fri, Aug 08, 2025 at 08:58:20PM +0800, Blair Noctis wrote: > The time and choice of time, occasionally the method to choose the time (aka > votes), seem to have created some turmoil in the past. > > Now, let me introduce a new take on that: Recurring Drop-in. > Recurring: A fixed, recurring schedule. I was pretty sure that we had already agreed on having a fixed time since the last discussion on this topic. > Drop-in: You are free to show up or not. It is already like that, it's not like we do or can force anyone to join. > So, it happens at a fixed schedule, but you can attend as you see fit. > This isn't too worse than status quo: we already, practically, attend at > will and by chance. > > As for the schedule, I suggest we have it biweekly, one at a far negative > time zones friendly time, one at a far positive time zones friendly time, so > people at both zone ranges could have equal chance, and effectively have a > monthly meeting, except for those who are enthusiastic enough to show up on > both ends. Now here is the real question. WHY? Personally I am one of the people who always get the short end of the stick with meeting timings past midnight and whatnot, but still turn up nonetheless. I *might have* joked about this before, but never complained. That is because I understand there is not a single timezone that fits everyone. And I also understand we always have more people from europe, so it's easier to work with european timezones. No, we cannot cater to everyone's best timings. And if you remember our past meetings, we typically have very few people attending it and one of the pain points is that we don' get to finalize on things since it's a minority speaking. And this usually turns to a "we have a consensus, let's discuss this further on the ML". I do not want to make this even worse by having split meetings. There's no limit to when people can discuss things in our IRC or ML. There is also a meeting log that people can make use of, thanks to having meetbot. Yes' I have read the rest of the mails in this thread and your reasonings. But this time I very very strongly disagree with the idea. Also, I doubt we have topics and people availability for biweekly meetings; bimonthly or monthly would be probably good enough. > (For people near +0, hi! I hope it doesn't annoy you too much. If it does, > please speak up.) > > For the day of the week, in the past we mostly fixed on weekends. Again, > anyone is free to show up or not. > > -- > ,Sdrager > Blair Noctis > > 🇵🇸 It is sort of nice that we are trying to find solutions for this people problem, but after more than enough discussions on this topic, now this just feels like bikeshedding. -- Best, Ananthu
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