Hi Paul, Paul Gevers <elbrus@debian.org> (2021-07-24): > On 24-07-2021 09:05, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > > @RT: I'd be happy to have some feedback from your regarding this > > approach; telling people to enable contrib/non-free so that > > they can install firmware packages is definitely *not* > > something I take lightly, but I'd be happy to have some kind of > > review there to see if that looks reasonable at all. I'm not > > sure there are many options these days anyway… > > It's only my opinion, but as it's my understanding too that a lot of > hardware just doesn't work great without the contrib/non-free drivers, I > think it's sensible to help users with instructions on how to get those. > You're not installing them and you're not enabling contrib/non-free, so > decent warnings can be given (spirit of free software vs hardware that > works well). Great, thanks for the confirmation. > I understand it's hard to get, but having the confirmation that > `nomodeset` actually works for the (or most) black screen issues would > obviously be great. Yes, I think it should be feasible to organize some polling once RC 3 is out. (That is, come up with a solution to achieve that, and point to it in the release announcement, and get that relayed via bits.d.o and all the press jazz if they're available.) > Side note: apart from the installation guide, do we think that this > warrants a note in the release notes too? Yeah, having some stub telling users there's an increasing need for firmware, and that they should check the installation guide for more information… would be great! > > @RT: This would be my preferred approach, and based on cdbuilder > > coming back up, plus my recent verifications in a d-i context, > > I think this should be manageable in time for the announced > > release date. Ideally we would be able to release an RC3 a > > week from now, letting us fix any boo-boo in time before > > mid-August. > > I assume your ugly backup plan is (near) ready (or really trivial), so > can be dropped in at the last moment in case there's set backs? Given Simon's excellent suggestion regarding firmware-linux (which for some reason I totally forgot about that), this should be really trivial indeed! I have no doubt we can make that happen at the 11th hour in case all the rest doesn't work (without spending time on testing this right away to make sure the backup plan works). Thanks, Simon! Cheers, -- Cyril Brulebois (kibi@debian.org) <https://debamax.com/> D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant
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