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Re: Bug#966114: src:cyrus-imapd: Mail::JMAPTalk version 0.15 required--this is only version 0.13 at ./Cassandane/Cyrus/JMAPCore.pm



Hi Chris,

On 03-09-2020 18:12, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote:
> * Xavier <yadd@debian.org> [200903 16:10]:
>>> I must say I find it unacceptable that autopkgtests which are being
>>> used to test migration from Debian unstable to Debian testing to rely
>>> on code from random places on the Internet, which Debian Developers
>>> have no control over.
>>
>> I understand your point of view. We found this way to reproduce upstream
>> test in this package that had no test before. What would be the best:
>>  * embed test libraries in source package (like apache2) ?
>>    + embed copies of dovecot and some other package that exists in
>>      Debian but with a different version ?
>>      -- or --
>>    + try to patch upstream test to use Debian packages in test ? (I
>>      tried without success)
>>  * remove autopkgtest files ?
>>  * render autopkgtest success "skippable" ?
> 
> CC-ed d-release@ as they probably have stronger opinions on this
> question.

ftp-master has an even stronger opinion, see
https://ftp-master.debian.org/REJECT-FAQ.html (Non-Main II).

> A side question there might be: "Why does CI have access
> to the Internet?"

Well, nowadays there is the needs-internet restriction to exactly
document the fact. Then the tools can (but aren't yet) be configured to
treat the test as intended by the stakeholders.

> In an ideal world I'd go with "package test libraries for Debian". 
Paul

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