Re: Bug#746946: wheezy-pu: package distro-info-data/0.23~deb7u1
[ Moving it to -lts to continue the discussion ]
Hi,
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015, Stuart Prescott wrote:
> > cf http://wiki.debian.org/LTS
>
> There is an on-going confusion in the wider Debian community about whether
> squeeze is still supported or EOL.
Where did you notice any confusion?
> The squeeze-lts work does not cover all of squeeze -- there are significant
> limitations in the packages and archs covered. It would be inappropriate to
> indicate to users that other archs were supported by saying that squeeze is
> still a supported release.
It's also inappropriate to say that it's "EOL" when 98% of the users who
are using amd64/i386 are still covered.
Yes there are packages which are unsupported in Squeeze but very much
like there are unsupported packages in Wheezy right now:
Squeeze:
http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/debian-security-support.git/plain/security-support-ended.deb6
Wheezy:
http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/debian-security-support.git/plain/security-support-ended.deb7
+ chromium cf https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=776904
It's just that the list expands over time as more and more packages
get unsupportable when upstream no longer supports them. And we try to
avoid this by backporting newer upstream version when there's no other
solution (we did this recently for wireshark in squeeze). (And we would
love to shorten the list of unsupported packages if we had more
resources)
> >From the very first line of the wiki page you linked to:
>
> LTS (Long Term Support) is a project for providing security
> patches after oldstable reached its end of life.
>
> which would agree with distro-info-data in stating that squeeze is EOL.
Or that we should rephrase our description. We are working hand in hand
with security team to provide a continuity in security support. EOL is in
2016 but in the interim, there are restrictions in what is truly
supported.
> As much as squeeze-lts is a great initiative, it's not true to say that
> squeeze is still a supported release. I guess that makes it EOL and it wants
> an EOL date that reflects when that change happened: 2014-05-31
I disagree. But I really don't care about distro-info so I will not
discuss this further in this context.
That said I believe it's important to clarify the situation of squeeze.
Your "EOL" description is misleading (and not really thankful of the work
that Debian LTS team members have put into Squeeze).
Cheers,
--
Raphaël Hertzog ◈ Debian Developer
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