Bug#774932: Bug#774931: Trying to find the licenses for the alt.sysadmin.recovery man page collection
Hi,
Riley Baird wrote:
> > Gah, this anonymous submitter is annoying. His claim that this "is
> > practically impossible" is yet to be proved as I'm trying to prove the
> > opposite.
>
> I am not anonymous.
Just a first name and an anonymous remailer is more or less anonymous
for me.
> My name is Riley Baird. I am the maintainer of pyelliptic.
Thanks!
> > He rather should be constructive instead of kicking people's work in
> > the ass. I'm quite pissed that anyone seems to ignore that I'm trying
> > to fix this issue to avoid the same fate as with funny-manpages (where
> > the copyright questions are indeed difficult to fix as the authors
> > first have to be figured out).
>
> You might not have seen this, but I have tried contacting many of the
> authors of the funny-manpages,
Indeed I didn't notice the progress over there. Thanks for your effort
over there even though it seems the more difficult case of those two.
> and not a single one responded - except RMS, who refused to
> relicense his manpages.
RMS declaring that something doesn't need to be free is weird.
> I even tried making a phone call to someone after looking up their
> name in the white pages.
Thanks! I actually would only try that in my own country...
> The reason that I filed the RM request was that the RC bug on
> funny-manpages was left open for several hundred days, with no
> action.
Despite they are different authors and nobody had tried to contact
them before? Sorry, from my PoV this is clearly not the same.
> Since it seemed that nobody cared about this issue with
> funny-manpages, I saw no reason to assume that anyone would care
> about it with asr-manpages.
I didn't try it with funny-manpages as there were more or less no
authors listed in there. But in asr-manpages, most authors were listed
and it was clear that the original postings can be found in the usenet
group alt.sysadmin.recovery. For me that's a huge difference and the
reason why I started the effort for asr-manpages, but not for
funny-manpages.
> Now that you are making an effort to fix it, that's great. I *want*
> asr-manpages to be in Debian. I just don't think that you are likely to
> get permission from all, or even most, of the authors, and especially
> not in time for the jessie release.
Not anymore after the package has been removed earlier than needed,
no. IMHO, there was a small chance before the removal. *sigh*
(I can see that result of the effort around funny-manpages can be
demotivating and frustrating. But someone taking away the chance to
get something fixed in time is demotivating and frustrating, too. So
please be less impatient when you file an RM bug next time.)
Regards, Axel
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