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- To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
- Subject: transition: kfreebsd-kernel-headers
- From: Steven Chamberlain <steven@pyro.eu.org>
- Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 22:55:01 +0100
- Message-id: <20140831215501.76522.79850.reportbug@sid.kfreebsd-amd64.pyro.eu.org>
Package: release.debian.org
User: release.debian.org@packages.debian.org
Usertags: transition
Hi, This is not a mere transition but our ambition to use kFreeBSD 10.1
as our kernel version for jessie.
This is primarily driven by the FreeBSD 10.1 release schedule; they
have gone into a 'code slush' which resembles Debian's early freeze,
with a final freeze date of 5th September, then they begin beta
builds. That applies to their entire distribution, not just their
kernel.
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.1R/schedule.html
A major consequence of their release schedule is that 10.0 security
support will have ended by the time Jessie is released. 10.1 should get
long-term security support, which means two years from release.
http://www.freebsd.org/security/security.html#sup
Within Debian:
* packaging of 10.1 snapshots began some 3 weeks ago, it is in
experimental and got through the NEW queue already
* Christoph has been running it throughout DebConf
* it's working fine with d-i: I've been using 10.1 kernels exclusively
while working on the bugs reported in d-i beta 1 (even udebs based on
10.0 or older userland)
* the snapshots are based on 10-STABLE, so it is not a development
trunk; it is viable to use a snapshot of this for Debian even if the
final 10.1 release comes too late to reach sid/jessie
* we're already using some features that were new/unimplemented in 10.0,
such as newcons that Robert backported an early version of, and KMS
which should have matured some more in 10.1
* clang-3.3 is being dropped from jessie/sid in favour of clang-3.4 or
3.5: upstream already builds 10.1 with clang-3.4, whereas 10.0 would
need some bits backported by us (not too difficult though)
The actual 'transition' part will be kfreebsd-kernel-headers from 10.0
to 10.1 (a snapshot is in experimental; we could update it to a newer
snapshot in a few days). It already went through a 9.2->10.0 transition
earlier this year. Reverse-Depends are mostly our own freebsd-libs,
libc0.1-dev, and from there it could affect many more things.
Still it doesn't seem like a regular transition, I don't know if a Ben
file could be written to describe it. It should not make anything
uninstallable by migrating to jessie.
amd64/i386 hardware is easy to get a hold of, so we could do some
test rebuilds where it seems like a good idea.
Thanks!
-- System Information:
Debian Release: jessie/sid
APT prefers unstable
APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'stable')
Architecture: kfreebsd-amd64 (x86_64)
Kernel: kFreeBSD 9.0-2-amd64-xenhvm-ipsec
Locale: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
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On 12/09/14 16:32, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
Yes, this doesn't seem like a "traditional" transition. So as long as you think
there won't be any/much breakage, and you fix the potential fallout, I think you
can go ahead with this. Of course doing the test rebuilds *before* starting this
would be a good idea to make sure things will still work fine.
I aged kfreebsd-kernel-headers and it just migrated to testing. Closing.
Emilio
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