Re: Results of the porter roll call (Was: Roll call for porters of architectures in sid and testing)
On 2013-10-14 10:06, Sven Luther wrote:
> [...]
>>> I don't know upto what point you are familiar with my history and its link to the powerpc
>>> port, but it pains me to see that the powerpc port is left with so few porters, and that it
>>> may mean the port being dropped. I also have not really followed the mailing lists since
>>> a long time, and don't know who is actually managing the powerpc port, but giving the (1) and
>>> 0.5 remark, i guess there is not a full porter.
>>>
>>
>> I am not familiar with your history, so I cannot comment on that part.
>
> I was kicked out of debian 7 years ago, due to a personal conflict with a couple of other DDs.
>
> I have left this behind me, and i think 7 years is enough for everyone to let this behind it,
> and 6 month ago, i was allowed again to post on debian lists, and there apparently was no
> negative feedback on that.
>
> Still I don't want to cause problems, even though i had one nice return to my mail which warmed
> my hearth, so before you add me or something, could you please check with the DPL or ask on
> debian-private or something to be sure this is ok. If you like more details please ask some other
> DDs who were there at the time, i think it is not my place to speak about it, and as said, it is
> history for me.
>
I haven't brought this up on d-private nor with the DPL, nor have I any
intention of doing so. I have no desire in ripping up old wounds; sorry.
If you have been unbanned (as you seem to claim) it sounds like you
have been given another chance. At this time, I have no reason to
second-guess that. So, if you can work with the current powerpc porters
(and they with you), I see no reason to stand in your way of working
with them.
Obviously, I cannot promise you it will be easy or anything. If your
stigmata is as bad as you suggest, you risk "doing twice the work for
half the pay"[1] - not to mention having "tread lighter" than everyone
else to avoid restarting the old conflict (or a fueling new one).
If you are ready and willing to work under these conditions; good,
please roll up your sleeves and get started. If not, well, I wouldn't
hold it against you, but then that is pretty much "end-of-discussion"
for me.
>> [...]
>>
>>> So given that, and provided debian may not see a problem again in me becoming active, i may
>>> be interested in becoming active again as powerpc maintainer. Not sure what category you
>>> can include me in though, and what the formalities would be should i become active (and welcome)
>>> in debian again.
>>
>> Assuming you can work with the current powerpc porter(s), I believe
>> there should be no issue adding you as a non-DD porter for now. For
>> now, I have not added you to my list, but feel free to let me know if I
>> should ammend it.
>
> Well, i will most assuredly have no problem with working with anyone of good will, if you gave me
> (privately) the name of the porter and other volunteers, i could contact them to make sure they
> have no trouble with me (but back then i don't think there was any powerpc people with whom i had
> bad contact too, quite the contrary).
>
The names of the porters were included in my original "Results of the
porter roll call" mail (see the attachment), so they are already public
available.
> I would need to get access to a debian/powerpc machine though, as i don't travel with a powerpc laptop
> anymore (my G4 powerbook hinges are broken and apple left powerpc), and i travel a lot.
>
> [...]
>
> Friendly,
>
> Sven Luther
Debian should have a powerpc porterbox. However, I believe you will
need a DD to sign off on you getting a guest account for those. I won't
be able to help you here though. Alternatively, some of the other ppc
porters might have an unofficial porterbox you can use.
~Niels
[1] I suppose this is especially true if you want to become a DD.
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