[Date Prev][Date Next] [Thread Prev][Thread Next] [Date Index] [Thread Index]

Bug#723641: pu: package xen/4.1.4-5



On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 04:58:43PM +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
> On Mon, September 30, 2013 18:52, Bastian Blank wrote:
> > I don't think this will work.  The current security process ignores
> > any communitation that is otherwise part of the NMU process.  As long as
> > the security team does not have some policy to cummunicate first and do
> > later, especially if the maintainer is already in the loop or, worse,
> > did it herself, I see not why this should work now.
> I think you're confusing miscommunication that happened, with a policy of
> not communicating.

Why are there no NMU diffs in the BTS as mandated by the developers
reference?  Why do people prefer doing stuff themself instead of
communicating?

> Something went wrong in the past, I don't know why, but there's definitely
> no process to ignore communication that should happen when working with
> other people's uploads.

It happened with different people, I remember three.  This is called a
pattern.  Patterns leads to informal policies.

> > My main problem are the missing mails on uploads.  If the ftp-masters
> > refuses to accept a patch---did they?---you have to do it by human
> > relay.
> We definitely do this by human relay. We missed one, there.

The person explicitely handling this case missed it also.

> All in all, I recognise that mistakes have been made but I do not think
> that they are 'a policy' by the team. I'm confident that it's possible to
> work together in a way that works for both parties. Why not just give it a
> fresh new chance?

Why do you ignore what I wrote in my original mail?  This where the
three points:

| - Fix dak to send mails, at least to the uploader and signer.

Should be a small patch to dak.  Did noone try it or was it rejected?
If it was rejected, why was CTTE not involved?  It is even listed as a
bug somewhere.

| - Communicate with the people doing the work, especially if you don't
|   like what they are doing.

Okay, this was discussed.

| - Push NMU-diffs to the BTS.

This is a long-standing point.  And I never got an answer why this is
not done.

As the whole problem is history repeating itself for me, I think you
have to actually show that this is not the normal way things would go.

Bastian

-- 
Emotions are alien to me.  I'm a scientist.
		-- Spock, "This Side of Paradise", stardate 3417.3


Reply to: