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Bug#484009: ftp.debian.org: Core gnome metapackages removed from Lenny breaks gnome desktop



On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 10:39:04AM +0000, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Jun 2008, Philipp Kern wrote:
> > am Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 11:42:04AM +0200 hast du folgendes geschrieben:
> > > I believe it's _not_ a reasonable removal, those bugs should be fixed or
> > > downgraded... 
> > 
> > Then please complain to the maintainers.  The package in testing wasn't
> > updated in months.
> 
> Right, but it's not more my job than yours. The release team decided to
> remove it, but it should really not do that lightly for packages
> which are part of tasks IMO.

  First it's not part of a task, as it's pulled by a chain of
recommends. Second, you've seen two gnome maintainers explaining to you
on #-devel-fr why _they_ (as maintainers) are fine with that removal. So
why are you still complaining ? It really doesn't help.


> We should rather make a call for new maintainers than remove them
> without further action... and then discover very late that we regressed
> between etch and lenny in the user-experience point of view.

  Why very late ? have a look at the RC bug list every day like I do and
you would know. At some point the RM team just can't NMU any broken
package out there. It's micro-management and it doesn't scale. So there
is a removal policy, that I believe to be sane, and update-* matched.

  FWIW I consider that new testing users not having a broken network-*
installed are users that have a better experience than users with fancy
stuff that does not work (but is very fancy I assume).

-- 
·O·  Pierre Habouzit
··O                                                madcoder@debian.org
OOO                                                http://www.madism.org

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