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Re: Bug#413469: ion3: The package is outdated



Hi Norbert,

On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 04:52:16PM +0100, Norbert Tretkowski wrote:
> * tuomov wrote:
> > The package is outdated: please remove or upgrade, and keep
> > upgrading even after release of the new static (“stable”) Debian.
> > See <http://iki.fi/tuomov/b/archives/2007/03/03/T19_15_26/> for more
> > information.

> Upstream of the ion window manager doesn't want to have a development
> version in a stable release.

> Please remove the packages ion3, ion3-scripts and ion3-mod-ionflux
> from etch.

Hmm, I note that you've also written in your blog that you're "no longer
interested in maintaining the ion2, ion3, ion3-mod-ionflux and ion3-scripts
packages".  Should I understand that to be an implicit orphaning?

If it's your intent to orphan the package, then it seems to me that the
"unsuitable in the maintainer's opinion" justification doesn't really apply
anymore, does it?  And I don't really see any other grounds for removing
these packages from the release; an upstream with ignorant ideas about how
software should be distributed is not a release-critical bug per se.  Sure,
maintainers should seek to stay on good terms with their upstreams, and not
gratuitously ship packages that are damaging to upstream's reputation; but
upstream seems to be biased against stable releases /in general/, and ion3
is a package that was already included in the previous stable release, has a
rather wide userbase according to popcon, and I hear nothing but good things
about it from other developers who use ion3.

So I myself am not inclined to defer to this upstream's idea about what
should or shouldn't be included in our stable release, when it seems to me
that there's a real argument that this is contrary to the interests of our
users.  Thus the question: is this your request as a maintainer, or as an
ex-maintainer?

Thanks,
-- 
Steve Langasek                   Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS
Debian Developer                   to set it on, and I can move the world.
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