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Re: Reclaiming automake



* Scott James Remnant (scott@ubuntu.com) wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-06-29 at 19:37 -0400, Eric Dorland wrote:
> 
> > * Scott James Remnant (scott@ubuntu.com) wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2006-06-25 at 19:11 -0400, Eric Dorland wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Scott James Remnant dropped me an email recently, interested in
> > > > improving the automake situation in Ubuntu and Debian[0].
> > > > 
> > > > [0] Their plan, which mirrors mine, is documented here:
> > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomakeTransition
> > > > 
> > > If you could have another read through of that spec, now it's
> > > post-draft, and make sure we're still both planning the same thing
> > > that'd be great.  I don't see any reason for Ubuntu to go a different
> > > direction to Debian here.
> > > 
> > > In particular I had a momentary thought about what packages should
> > > actually depend/build-depend on now -- could you check that.
> > 
> > The automaken | automake$VER is probably not wise. A new version of
> > automake may not be fully backwards compatible. If it were, we
> > wouldn't have these problems. Better to depend on a known version that
> > works, or better still don't build depend on it at all and ship the
> > generated files in the diff.gz.
> > 
> I'd personally tend to err on the "assume it is, unless it isn't" --
> would you suggest all packages be changed to not B-D on automaken then?

In my opinion this would be best practice. Some maintainers don't
agree. 

> > I'm going to get started on Saturday, and I'll be on IRC
> > (#debian-devel) so if you (or anyone) want to join in the fun, we can
> > coordinate there. I've just filed #376047 too, so any bugs filed
> > should be made to block that one. 
> > 
> The disadvantage of doing this for a living, rather than for fun, is
> that weekends tend to be out :)  I'll pick up on Monday :p

You've lost your love of free software Scott :P No worries, hopefully
on Monday you'll wake up to see a lot of progress. 

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