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Re: [VAC] August



Hi Charles,

On 2 August 2025 at 10:03, Charles Plessy wrote:
| Hi everybody,
| 
| with the freeze we have regrown a big backlog of outdated r-cran-*
| packages (in my opinion there is not gain uploading to experimental
| since the only way to move them to unstable is to upload again).  Last
| year, I have made a large contribution for keeping these packages up to
| date and just in case I wanted to let you know that I will only restart
| to do so in September.
| 
| Actually, before putting a serious effort in the backlog cleaning, maybe
| we can take the opportunity to have a serious discussion in September
| about the sustainability of our model, the possibility to remove most
| package that are not in the dependency graph of non-R packages (given
| how easy it is to install trusted source or binary pacages from third
| parties such as the ones distributed by Dirk and others), the
| opportunity to automate even further, the difficulty to support
| other architectures than amd64 and arm64 with our limited resources,
| and a possible switch to dgit?

Good idea -- I would be in favour of a discussion as it may be worthwhile to
compare 'goals' and both 'hits' and possible 'misses'. When I drafted the
'Debian R Policy' document some twenty-two years ago [1] I didn't quite see
this far into a world where we have 22k CRAN packages which may be impossible
to integrate into Debian via the the official channels.

What we have right now is very valid and suitable for many deployments. And
while impressive at over 1k packages from CRAN (when I last counted) it still
cannot truly serve for 'serious' R deployment given 22k packages at CRAN and
hence 21k misses. So we could chat about possible alternatives. 

Cheers, Dirk

[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/12/msg02332.html
 
| Have a nice … month!

Enjoy your time off!

-- 
dirk.eddelbuettel.com | @eddelbuettel | edd@debian.org


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