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Bug#1095601: marked as done (partitionmanager: Installation try to remove my non systemd init system)

Your message dated Tue, 20 May 2025 12:47:26 +0200
with message-id <beac177a-e553-463f-95b2-a3bbaf636ed9@debian.org>
and subject line Re: Bug#1095600: gparted: Apt want to remove my init system
has caused the Debian Bug report #1095601,
regarding partitionmanager: Installation try to remove my non systemd init system
to be marked as done.

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1095601: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1095601
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Package: partitionmanager
Severity: important
X-Debbugs-Cc: bardot.jerome@gmail.com

Dear Maintainer,

*** Reporter, please consider answering these questions, where appropriate ***

   * What led up to the situation?
Trying to install partitionmanager

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   * What exactly did you do (or not do) that was effective (or
     ineffective)?
apt install partitionmanager

apt install --no-install-recommends partitionmanager


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   * What was the outcome of this action?

Installing:
  partitionmanager

Installing dependencies:
  kio6  libkf6authcore6  libkf6kiocore6  libkf6kiogui6  libkpmcore12  libpam-
systemd  libpolkit-qt6-1-1  systemd  systemd-sysv

Paquets suggérés :
  libtss2-rc0t64  hfsplus  hfsutils  systemd-container  systemd-homed  systemd-
userdbd  systemd-boot  systemd-resolved  systemd-repart  polkitd

Paquets recommandés :
  systemsettings  dbus-user-session  systemd-cryptsetup  libnss-systemd

REMOVING:
  initscripts  insserv  orphan-sysvinit-scripts  rcconf  startpar  systemd-
standalone-sysusers  sysv-rc  sysv-rc-conf  sysvinit-core

Summary:
  Upgrading: 0, Installing: 10, Removing: 9, Not Upgrading: 183
  Download size: 9 511 kB
  Space needed: 38,9 MB / 866 GB available


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   * What outcome did you expect instead?


A installation without the remove of my init system.


-- System Information:
Debian Release: trixie/sid
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (500, 'testing-debug')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
Foreign Architectures: i386

Kernel: Linux 6.12.10-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU threads; PREEMPT)
Locale: LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=fr_FR.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) (ignored: LC_ALL set to fr_FR.UTF-8), LANGUAGE=fr_FR.UTF-8
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /usr/bin/dash
Init: sysvinit (via /sbin/init)
LSM: AppArmor: enabled

Versions of packages partitionmanager depends on:
pn  kio6                  <none>
ii  libc6                 2.40-6
ii  libkf6colorscheme6    6.10.0-1
ii  libkf6configcore6     6.10.0-1
ii  libkf6configgui6      6.10.0-1
ii  libkf6configwidgets6  6.10.0-1
ii  libkf6coreaddons6     6.10.0-1
ii  libkf6crash6          6.10.0-1
ii  libkf6dbusaddons6     6.10.0-1
ii  libkf6i18n6           6.10.0-1
pn  libkf6kiocore6        <none>
pn  libkf6kiogui6         <none>
ii  libkf6widgetsaddons6  6.10.0-1
ii  libkf6windowsystem6   6.10.0-1
ii  libkf6xmlgui6         6.10.0-1
pn  libkpmcore12          <none>
pn  libpolkit-qt6-1-1     <none>
ii  libqt6core6t64        6.7.2+dfsg-6
ii  libqt6gui6            6.7.2+dfsg-6
ii  libqt6widgets6        6.7.2+dfsg-6
ii  libstdc++6            14.2.0-12

partitionmanager recommends no packages.

Versions of packages partitionmanager suggests:
ii  btrfs-progs    6.12-1+b1
ii  dosfstools     4.2-1.1
pn  hfsplus        <none>
pn  hfsutils       <none>
ii  jfsutils       1.1.15-6
ii  ntfs-3g        1:2022.10.3-5
ii  reiser4progs   1.2.2-2
ii  reiserfsprogs  1:3.6.27-9
ii  xfsprogs       6.12.0-1

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--- Begin Message --- 
Thanks for the elaborate answer, Simon.
It appears Jerome has filed quite a few duplicates for other packages, about the same issue: 

docker.io: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1079018
synaptic: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1093418
partitionmanager: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1095601

I'm going to close all of them as duplicates with the same reasoning.

Regards,
Michael


On Tue, 20 May 2025 10:49:11 +0100 Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> wrote:


On Sun, 09 Feb 2025 at 17:51:11 +0100, Bardot Jerome wrote:
>apt install --no-install-recommends gparted
...
>Installing dependencies:
>  dbus-user-session  libnss-systemd  libpam-systemd  pkexec  polkitd  systemd
>systemd-cryptsetup  systemd-sysv
>
>Paquets suggérés :
>  libtss2-rc0t64  systemd-container  systemd-homed  systemd-userdbd  systemd-
>boot  systemd-resolved  systemd-repart
>
>REMOVING:
>  initscripts  insserv  orphan-sysvinit-scripts  rcconf  startpar  systemd-
>standalone-sysusers  sysv-rc  sysv-rc-conf  sysvinit-core
You are using a non-default init system. This is a core system component and you cannot necessarily expect apt's heuristics for resolving dependencies to choose the answer that you want when you have swapped out core system components. You will need to give it more clues about what you want, for example 

     apt install gparted systemd-

or

     apt install gparted sysvinit-core
to tell apt that installing systemd or removing sysvinit-core is not a dependency resolution that you consider to be valid, or 

     apt install gparted libpam-elogind
to tell apt explicitly how to resolve the dependency on a logind implementation. 

On Mon, 19 May 2025 at 12:38:58 -0400, Phillip Susi wrote:
>It appears that policykit hard depends on systemd.
No, it does not. It depends on functionality that in a typical Debian system is provided by systemd, but alternatives do exist.
polkitd (the package containing the polkit system service, previously called PolicyKit) depends on either adduser or an implementation of the systemd-sysusers interface, and either default-logind (libpam-systemd) or another implementation of the logind interface.
On sysvinit systems, these dependencies can be satisfied by installing adduser or systemd-standalone-sysusers instead of systemd, and installing libpam-elogind instead of libpam-systemd.
policykit-1 is a transitional package which no longer exists in testing/unstable. In stable, it depended on polkitd (the daemon) and pkexec (a sudo-like privilege elevation program with polkit integration). 

     smcv

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