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Bug#883706: dolphin4 is still linked with libplasma3



In data giovedì 7 dicembre 2017 09:56:25 CET, Adrian Bunk ha scritto:
> On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 07:30:08AM +0100, Pino Toscano wrote:
> > Control: severity -1 important
> > Control: tag -1 - patch
> > 
> > In data mercoledì 6 dicembre 2017 19:33:10 CET, Adrian Bunk ha scritto:
> > > Package: dolphin4
> > > Version: 4:16.08.3-1
> > > Severity: serious
> > > Tags: patch buster sid
> > > 
> > > dolphin4 is still linked with libplasma3,
> > > which has to be removed for the qtwebkit removal.
> > 
> > NACK.
> > 
> > dolphin4 (which uses kdelibs4) is shipped only to provide file browsing
> > capabilities to konqueror (which uses kdelibs4).  In recent versions of
> > KDE Applications kde-baseapps does not exist anymore, replaced by split
> > tarballs (konqueror, kfind, keditbookmarks, kdialog).  Only konqueror
> > is available in experimental, the others are waiting in NEW.  Once all
> > are available, they will replace kde-baseapps in unstable (in a
> > coordinated upload with kde-l10n, since they ship translations), and
> > thus dolphin4 will be removed.
> > 
> > To be honest, it would be much easier if you could *wait* for the
> > completion of Applications 17.08 in unstable/testing, so there will be
> > few more kdelibs4-using sources either dropped (like dolphin4) or
> > ported to Frameworks.
> 
> Then kde-baseapps is the only big blocker for the qtwebkit
> removal from testing.
> 
> And then there are 3 options for the libkonq-using packages 
> currently in testing (kdiff3/komparator/kile[1]):
> 1. they get updated to Qt5 and new konqueror
> 2. remove their usage of libkonq if that's possible
> 3. get them out of testing

- kdiff3 has an optional dependency, so (2)
- komparator seems to have a mandatory dependency, so I'm afraid that
  it will be (3) (dead upstream, apparently)
- kile requires okular, so it will be updated (most probably to a devel
  version, sigh) together with okular (which is part of the updates to
  Applications 17.08); once done that, konsole4 will be RMed

As you can see, I already know what are the options here.

> Getting rid of the dolphin4 -> libplasma3 dependency decouples the
> qtwebkit removal from kde-baseapps, removing the urgency from
> getting rid of kde-baseapps.

Urgency which is unnecessary at this point (also because of ftp-masters
being the usual blocker in the Debian work), and bugs like this actually
adds *more* work (such as patching dead sources) than anything else.

Please stop this pushing attitude, it simply does not help, especially
when not having the full picture of KDE packages.  Thanks.

-- 
Pino Toscano

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