we're busy packaging Plasma 5 https://code.launchpad.net/kubuntu-packaging-next Some of the packages have the same name in kdelibs4 land but most do not http://download.kde.org/unstable/plasma/4.97.0/src/ khelpcenter (except not really cos its khelpcenter4 in kdelibs4 packaging) ksysguard kmenuedit systemsettings plasma-desktop should we use a 4: epoch for all the plasma 5 packages for consistency or just those with the same source/binary names? Jonathan