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Bug#661603: kalzium: Update to Kalzium in experimental not possible/put on hold



Dear Alexander,
 I am not a developer/packager but a user just like you and  I also
have the same thing. I think those issues will be resolved as and when
KDESC4.7 transition is completed and its going to take quite some
time.

Some things to show/share :-

$ apt-show-versions -a kalzium
kalzium 4:4.6.5-2 install ok installed
kalzium 4:4.4.5-2 stable       ftp.debian.org
kalzium 4:4.6.5-2 testing      ftp.debian.org
kalzium 4:4.6.5-2 unstable     ftp.debian.org
kalzium 4:4.7.4-1 experimental ftp.debian.org
kalzium/testing uptodate 4:4.6.5-2

$ sudo aptitude install kalzium=4:4.7.4-1
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  avogadro-data{a} kde-runtime{ab} libavogadro1{a}
libboost-python1.48.0{a} libopenbabel4{a} python-avogadro{a}
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  libscience4{u}
The following packages will be upgraded:
  kalzium{b}
1 packages upgraded, 6 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 11.4 MB of archives. After unpacking 29.5 MB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  kalzium: Depends: libkdecore5 (>= 4:4.7) but 4:4.6.5-2+b1 is installed.
           Depends: libkdeui5 (>= 4:4.7) but 4:4.6.5-2+b1 is installed.
           Depends: libkhtml5 (>= 4:4.7) but 4:4.6.5-2+b1 is installed.
           Depends: libkio5 (>= 4:4.7) but 4:4.6.5-2+b1 is installed.
           Depends: libknewstuff3-4 (>= 4:4.7) but 4:4.6.5-2+b1 is installed.
           Depends: libkunitconversion4 (>= 4:4.7) but 4:4.6.5-2+b1 is
installed.
           Depends: libplasma3 (>= 4:4.7) but 4:4.6.5-2+b1 is installed.
           Depends: kalzium-data (>= 4:4.7.4-1) but 4:4.6.5-2 is installed.
  kde-runtime: Depends: libkcmutils4 (>= 4:4.7) but 4:4.6.5-2+b1 is installed.
               Depends: libkdecore5 (>= 4:4.7) but 4:4.6.5-2+b1 is installed.
               Depends: libkdesu5 (>= 4:4.7) but 4:4.6.5-2+b1 is installed.
               Depends: libkdeui5 (>= 4:4.7) but 4:4.6.5-2+b1 is installed.
               Depends: libkdewebkit5 (>= 4:4.7) but 4:4.6.5-2+b1 is installed.
               Depends: libkdnssd4 (>= 4:4.7) but 4:4.6.5-2+b1 is installed.
               Depends: libkemoticons4 (>= 4:4.7) but 4:4.6.5-2+b1 is installed.
               Depends: libkfile4 (>= 4:4.7) but 4:4.6.5-2+b1 is installed.
               Depends: libkhtml5 (>= 4:4.7) but 4:4.6.5-2+b1 is installed.
               Depends: libkidletime4 (>= 4:4.7) but 4:4.6.5-2+b1 is installed.
               Depends: libkio5 (>= 4:4.7.0) but 4:4.6.5-2+b1 is installed.
               Depends: libkmediaplayer4 (>= 4:4.7) but 4:4.6.5-2+b1
is installed.
               Depends: libknewstuff3-4 (>= 4:4.7) but 4:4.6.5-2+b1 is
installed.
               Depends: libknotifyconfig4 (>= 4:4.7) but 4:4.6.5-2+b1
is installed.
               Depends: libkparts4 (>= 4:4.7) but 4:4.6.5-2+b1 is installed.
               Depends: libkpty4 (>= 4:4.7) but 4:4.6.5-2+b1 is installed.
               Depends: libnepomuk4 (>= 4:4.7) but 4:4.6.5-2+b1 is installed.
               Depends: libnepomukquery4a (>= 4:4.7) but 4:4.6.5-2+b1
is installed.
               Depends: libplasma3 (>= 4:4.7.0) but 4:4.6.5-2+b1 is installed.
               Depends: libqzeitgeist0 (>= 0.7.0) but it is not going
to be installed.
               Depends: libsolid4 (>= 4:4.7.0) but 4:4.6.5-2+b1 is installed.
               Depends: libsoprano4 (>= 2.7.0) but 2.6.0+dfsg.1-4 is installed.
               Depends: kde-runtime-data (>= 4:4.7.4-1) but it is not
going to be installed.
               Depends: kdelibs5-plugins (>= 4:4.7.0) but 4:4.6.5-2+b1
is installed.
               Depends: shared-desktop-ontologies (>= 0.8) but 0.6.0-1
is installed.
               Depends: plasma-scriptengine-javascript (= 4:4.7.4-1)
but 4:4.6.5-1+b1 is installed.
               Breaks: kdebase-runtime (< 4:4.7.2) but 4:4.6.5-1+b1 is
installed.
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

     Remove the following packages:
1)     kalzium
2)     kdeedu

     Keep the following packages at their current version:
3)     kde-runtime [Not Installed]



Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?]

What this means that there would be a bunch of stuff I would need to
pull in from experimental so its just not libscience4 but perhaps
other things as well.

As far as transitions are concerned, you should look at
http://release.debian.org/transitions/ and more to the point
http://release.debian.org/transitions/html/kde4.7.html

If you go down the page you see it in depends on libarchive and
libpng1.5 transitions being completed.

While libarchive is almost on the verge of being completed, libpng1.5
is again held by transitions on numpy, libtiff4-symbols,poppler0.18
and maybe couple of others.

All in all, this would take a while. Till all these transitions are
not completed I don't think  you will see any movement for the better.
>From what little I have seen in general of Debian Maintainers they are
usually worried of things breaking in unstable/sid as those things
will finally reach testing and then stable perhaps.  (This is
perfectly reasonable on the maintainer's part, please remember its a
volunteer effort).

The only advice I can give is to have patience. :)

Till l8er.
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