I have installed Debian etch testing snapshot 15.02.2007 at first i installed debian based without anything. Then i installed Xorg. and then kdebase and kdm only. Now when i run the pc then the boottime is long. When i want shutdown the shutdown procedure is very very long. With Debian Sarge and kde3.3.2 was all ok? What makes kde when i want shutdown the system? This evening i want test it with an stopwatch. best regards Greg Lang