On Wednesday 11 October 2006 11:01, Michael Biebl wrote: > Oh dear, what a mess. Seems you were right, Christopher. > > Being part of the Debian Utopia team (which amongst others maintains > hal), I knew, that the mount code (actually bash scripts) in 0.5.7 > had some problems and we used to patch them to make use of pmount. > Beginning with hal-0.5.8 we dropped these pmount patches from hal, as > the mount code in hal was more robust and better dealt with > non-removable/removable devices, or devices configured in /etc/fstab. > > Before I filed this bug report, I grepped the sources of kdebase and > couldn't find a reference to pmount/pumount. I also did some tests > with my cdrom drive. I removed the pmount binaries, and > mounting/unmounting of the drive was still possible as an > un-priviledged user (no matter if the device was configured in > /etc/fstab or not). Only ejecting without having it unmounted first > did not work without pmount. > I therefore thought kded media manager properly uses hal to > mount/unmount devices and it would be safe to remove the dependency > on pmount. > Today a friend of mine brought me an USB stick. I plugged it in, the > icon appeared on the desktop and I was able to mount the device > without problems. Unfortunately the option "Safely Remove" from the > context menu did not have any effect. Only after installing pmount, I > was able to unmount the USB stick. So, indeed, KDE seems to need > pmount for successfully mounting/unmounting devices, and I was wrong > requesting the removal of the dependency. > The real problem though seems to be, that KDE doesn't use hal > properly, to do the mounting/unmounting/ejecting. > Unfortunately the code in kioslave/media/mediamanager/ is quite > complex and large, so I couldn't easily spot the problem. Someone > with more knowledge of this code should take a look at this and fix > the hal support there. > > To make a long story short, I think the hal related mount code in KDE > is somewhat broken atm and should be fixed in the long term. As a > short term solution it's probably better to add the pmount dependency > back. Will do. Thanks for the information. And yes, the KDE code is almost certainly to blame here. Hopefully KDE4 will clean things up. Cheers, Christopher Martin
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