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Re: lurker ftbfs with newest mimelib (3.4.2)



* Jonas Meurer [Wed, 07 Sep 2005 15:22:57 +0200]:

> hello,

  Hi,

> the new kdepim packages in debian/unstable (3.4.2) bring new depends for
> mimelib too. up to now, libmimelib1(a,-dev) didn't depend on any kde
> libraries.
> therefore packages which use libmimelib didn't have to install big
> kde/qt libs for being build.

> latest libmimelib1-dev now depends on libkdepim1-dev, which depends on
> kdelibs4-dev and this way brings tons of new build-depends for packages
> which build-depend on libmimelib1-dev.

> i maintain lurker, a mailinglist archiver, and after contact with
> upstream (see above) i believe that this is a bug in the new debian
> kdepim packages.
> it seems like mimelib doesn't really require qt3 headers or even kde
> libraries, but the packages create dependencies.

> what do you think about this situation? could the depends for
> libmimelib1-dev be relaxed again?

  I know that Daniel Schepler, the kdepim maintainer, is aware of the
  situation and plans on removing that dependency as soon as possible.

  At the moment, and afaik, any progress in this area is blocked by
  #326113, which just needs me or some other KDE packager (or Daniel
  himself) finding some time to fix it.

  So, it seems only a bit of patience is needed in order to get this
  solved. :)

> here's the discussion with lurker upstream:

> On 07/09/2005 Wesley W. Terpstra wrote:
> > On Sep 7, 2005, at 2:14 PM, Jonas Meurer wrote:
> > >newest kdepim (3.4.2) brings a updated mimelib which now depends on  
> > >qt3 development headers.

> > That sucks.

> > >on the other hand, that new build-depend requires a lot more qt/kde  
> > >libs to be installed, and thus makes it a pain to build lurker on
> > >non-x server machines.

> > Are we sure this dependency is more than just how they linked it?
> > AFAICS, there is no reason for mimelib to depend on kde.
> > Perhaps this is a bug in KDE and/or the debian packages of KDE?

> > >i doubt that mimelib is the only library to handle mime types, and  
> > >maybe lurker should move to another one, which is not part of a big  
> > >project as kde.

> > mimelib is not part of the KDE project. <http://www.hunnysoft.com/ 
> > mimepp/> KDE happens to include it in their releases, that's all.

> so why are the debian packages built out of kdepim sources instead of
> using the upstream releases?

> maybe the kde/qt maintainers have a good reason? or is it just because
> nobody complained up to now?

  Daniel would be best suited to answer to this, but I suspect the
  latter.

  Cheers,

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