Hello!
On Mon, Jan 24, 2005 at 01:19:28PM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote:
> I'm writing to this list in hopes that the situation of the German
> translation for the kdebase debconf templates can be clarified.
OK, some good news and some bad news: all three translations appear to
be consistent and basically suitable, yet all three still contain some
mistakes.
> We've just recevied Bug#291954 [1], "[l10n] german translation of
> kdebase debconf messages" from Burkhard Lück.
>
> [1] http://bugs.debian.org/291954
As I cannot find any further traces of Burkhard in the archives I tend
to believe this was his first work and he didn't know about the proper
procedures well enough. Nonetheless I hope he will continue, perhaps
from now on more or less loosely coordinated with the l10n-german
mailing list :)
Further hints might be taken from him setting the translation team to
the KDE l10n list and not heeding several standards the Debian
l10n-german list has previously agreed upon, so I don't think his
translation will find this list's acceptance as-is.
> However, a translation was already included in kdebase 4:3.3.0a-1
> (back in September 2004), and the templates had not changed in the
> meantime. Such translation was sent in Bug#264608 [2] by Erik Schanze.
>
> [2] http://bugs.debian.org/264608
>
> _Still_, there was an older bug from Helge Kreutzmann, Bug#252060 [3],
> which also contained a translation. We missed this bug when uploading
> the translation in #264608 -- this shouldn't have happened, but that's
> how it went. Sorry.
>
> [3] http://bugs.debian.org/252060
Well, this happens. Unfortunately it happened twice, baaad KDE team
and baaad Erik :P
Seriously, though, you show best behaviour in sorting this out now.
> I apologized to Helge in [4], inviting him to make corrections to
> Erik's translation if necessary. If you follow the bug, you can see
> that he did, and CC'ed Erik asking for approval, but there has been no
> reply until now.
>
> [4] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=252060&msg=23
>
> * * *
>
> So, the KDE maintainers (and, I can imagine, any maintainer) would be
> very happy to have only one translation sent, ideally with some sort
> of "this translation has the approval of the relevant l10n team" link.
> This way, a straightforward action can be performed ("include the .po
> file") without fear of incruding the "wrong" translation.
Helge already mentioned in #252060 how he thinks Erik's translation is
nice, but he added some corrections. I think those are basically
justified, but were still in need of some improvement, so I
incorporated them into a new de.po, waiting for the l10n-german list
to approve or improve.
For the sake of comparison and completeness I put all files at
<http://people.debian.org/~florian/l10n-german/>, naming the file from
the corresponding bugreport right after it, the .new file being the
version changed by me, containing the corrections previously
suggested, and the .diff containing the diff -u output.
The one I personally favor is 264608.de.po.new.
And for clarity's sake I explain why I preferred not to use "während"
but took "beim" instead: "während" is generally coupled with Genitiv,
combined with Dativ it's rather colloquial instead; but using the
correct case here sounds quite awkward in German so I tried to
circumvent that problem by using alternative phrasing.
Erik, Helge, Burkhard, others, what do you think about all this?
Cheers,
Flo
PS: Not CCing Helge as he's on the list.
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