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Bug#696254: qa.debian.org: PTS has outdated current policy version



On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 08:00:37PM +0000, Bart Martens wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 02:59:14PM +0000, Dominic Hargreaves wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 06:37:12AM +0000, Bart Martens wrote:
> > > I suggest to implement the following instead :
> > 
> > I understand your proposal, but it feels like overkill to me.
> 
> It's some work once, but afterwards PTS automatically follows any future
> debian-policy version changes, so I think it's worth it.

Right, that part of it makes sense, but I don't think there's any need
to track more than debian-policy in unstable.

I'm not volunteering to implement that, though :)
 
> > I'm not
> > convinced there's really anything special about 3.9.4 than any other
> > version of policy w.r.t the freeze.
> 
> I don't see anything special there either.
> 
> > Russ, in his 3.9.4 announcement,
> > reminded us not to gratuitously update the S-V of a package during
> > the freeze (and he did mention 3.9.4 there)
> 
> I think he meant that doing uploads and requesting unblocks just to bump the
> standards-version is not so useful.
> 
> > but wouldn't the same apply
> > to a package that currently had 3.9.2?
> 
> I agree with that.
> 
> > A gratuitous bump to 3.9.3
> > wouldn't make any sense for a package targetted at wheezy.
> 
> I agree about "a gratuitous bump".  About "a bump" however, I think that fixing
> RC bugs combined with bumping the standards-version without further changes is
> not wrong.  It's not wrong that PTS suggests to bump the standards-version,
> regardless of the freeze.
> 
> > 
> > How about a simpler modification to the current template:
> > 
> >   The package should be updated to follow the last version of Debian Policy
> >   (Standards-Version <first three version parts of policy version> instead of
> >   <package's standards version>). We recommend that such changes do not
> >   take place during a freeze for packages targetted at the testing
> >   distribution.
> 
> I prefer short messages on the PTS.  If we want the PTS to stop suggesting to
> bump the standards-version during the freeze, then the messages should be
> hidden during the freeze.  Maybe we can do that automatically.  Do we have some
> indicator on quantz that Debian is in freeze ?

I don't think the current advice is different to other PTS notices such
as new upstream versions and patch incorporation; they would often
not be appropriate during a freeze. A global reminder of the freeze
and not blindly following the advice of the PTS wouldn't do any harm,
though.

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