Bug#332938: qa.debian.org: please provide a user/tester view with workflow progress status
Hello,
--- Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> a écrit :
> Pierre M <adrpmym@yahoo.fr> writes:
>
> > Outside of Debian, you see this :
> >
> http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=debian
> > (may be not up to date, may be same problems as
> dehs, but interesting)
>
> Looking at this briefly, it appears to be mostly
> nonsense. The accuracy
> rate of statements on it about unstable or etch
> looks to be running at
> about 50%, and even when it's accurate about some
> things, it has some
> obvious bad ideas (listing 2.2.0 as the current best
> version for Apache,
> for instance).
I agree with you. May be it is not accurate but that
is why I ask about transparency : if Debian provided
such a simple view of the workflow, I wouldn't ask my
silly questions. And if Debian exported packages
versions simply, sites like distrowatch could run
accurately.
Suppose distrowatch (or other) offers distro
comparisons ala wikimatrix.org or cmsmatrix.org. How
would Debian look like ?
May be Debian already provides that simple view
(targeting testers/users) and I'm sorry not to have
found it yet.
> > http://packages.debian.org/etch/ (err 404)
>
> Where did you get that URL from?
> http://www.debian.org/releases/
> correctly links to
> http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/.
My mistake. It was http://release.debian.org/etch
I like to refer to releases by name as if they were
(are?) products (free products with nice QA).
> > http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/ answers the tester
> question "Why is package
> > X not in testing yet ?" (the number 2 question of
> a tester)
>
> This site is really not particularly useful to
> people other than Debian
> developers; too much of the information is technical
> or related to the
> inner workings of the testing migration.
Yes, ok, you are right, it is developer oriented. But
as I follow a tester view or a user view (so a feature
driven view) I care very much about what version is or
will be available. In the QA screen I see "version n+1
has not yet entered testing but you can *check why*".
I value this link very much : sometimes a deeper
dependency or build explaination is nice to know.
Hey, I'm wishing a less dev oriented view after all :)
> > http://dehs.alioth.debian.org/ the nirvana asks
> the tester's question
> > "why the dd isn't packaging current upstream
> software ?"
>
> No, it doesn't. It answers the question of whether
> the version in
> unstable appears to be up to date, which is a
> completely different
> question.
Thank you for this good key, my mistake again.
I discovered the "ftp new queue". Would it help
answering my "current packaging" question if the QA
screen provided some information about the package in
that queue the way it claims it has entered exp or
unstable ?
May be I should bug Debian marketing team rather than
the QA with my non technical wish ;)
PM (sorry for my English, I'm not a native speaker)
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