By the way, another thing I hate about debian is: I want to install a program, slowly read its documents and man pages, then activate the features I want. But no, e.g. ledcontrol and indeed other led programs start playing with your leds right after you install them. So, I suppose the safe way to learn about a debian package is to poke around in the .deb on the CD, yuck. -- http://jidanni.org/ Taiwan(04)25854780