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Re: Release-critical Bugreport for November 26, 1999



On 99-11-27 Branden Robinson wrote:
> Sorry for the spam; someone please direct me to the correct forum. Is it
> <bugscan@debian.org>?

[Cut the Cc-list down, as I forgot to set a Mail-Followup-To-Header]

> On Sat, Nov 27, 1999 at 05:21:45PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote:
> > > Package: xbase-clients (main)
> > > Maintainer: Branden Robinson <branden@debian.org>
> > >   48199  xauth can't handle IP changes
> > 
> > Brandon, do you need some help to get it fixed?

> s/Brandon/Branden/

Sorry, for calling you with the wrong name.

> Yes, it would be nice.  If somebody volunteers for this, I have an easy
> wishlist bug that could be fixed while they're at it.

As this email goes as Cc to Debian QA, I suggest, that someone or some
from the QA-Team, with a knowledge of X, start helping Branden to get
this bug fixed.

> > > Package: xdm (main)
> > > Maintainer: Branden Robinson <branden@debian.org>
> > >   50740  xdm: xdm conflicts with gdm and refuses to stay installed
> > 
> > Shouldn't be too much work to fix.

> I'm not sure this is even really an RC bug.  Sounds like a problem with gdm
> to me.  Other display managers should just stay out of each other's way

I didn't investigate every bug completely, but this could also be
possible. Seems like it needs some investigation to check if first, if
it's an RCB or not.

> until the maintainers of {g,k,w}dm get together with me on debian-x and
> hash out a policy.  xdm is not a hog.  It doesn't do XDMCP listening as it

This would be a optimal solution, but I think this will take some time.
So what could be done as temporary solution?

> > > Package: xfs (main)
> > > Maintainer: Branden Robinson <branden@debian.org>
> > >   50859  xfs runs as root
> > 
> > Would it be possible to run xfs under the permission of nobody?

> No, it owns files.  Before I can address this we need a clearer policy on
> allocation of system users.  I am not going to take Herbert Xu's mad
> proliferation of system users as a precedent to follow without
> corroboration.

Okay, this is good news about this issue. 

> > > Package: xlib6g-dev (main)
> > > Maintainer: Branden Robinson <branden@debian.org>
> > >   51076  [PATCH] tmp race in imake
> > 
> > Branden, what about the patch in the BTS?

> Will be in my next release.

Th@nks.

> > > Package: xserver-common (main)
> > > Maintainer: Branden Robinson <branden@debian.org>
> > >   50209  XF86Config moved and config is broken
> > 
> > Is this really a bug or not?

> It seems to be.  I've dug through the XF86Setup source (which is what this
> bug refers to).  It is written in Tcl, which I'm not totally familiar with.

Is there someone of Debian-QA who is familar with TCL? If yes, I would
appreciate if he could help Branden with fixing this bug.

> symlink we ship.  This could still be user error, though.  What I really
> need is someone more familiar with Tcl to take a closer look at XF86Setup.

> > >   51086  if a font server in the fontpath dies, xfree86 will misbehave and might crash
> > 
> > Branden, are you already working o a fix or do you need som help?

> This is an old known bug; I am not working on a fix; the problem is
> upstream and might not be trivial to fix.  Anyone up to some DIX hacking?

DIX-Hacking? This doesn't sound very good and seems like much and hard
work. So we should better get the upstream maintainers to fix it.

> Actually, anyone who's done socket programming in C before should be able
> to figure it out.

Maybe. Let's see if we have such a person available with enough time to
help.

> > > Package: xserver-fbdev (main)
> > > Maintainer: Branden Robinson <branden@debian.org>
> > >   43574  xscreensaver, xscreensaver-gl don't appear to work (but do)
> > 
> > Is this bug still there or not?

> I don't know.

So, could somebody please check?

> > > Package: xserver-svga (main)
> > > Maintainer: Branden Robinson <branden@debian.org>
> > >   44995  xserver-svga: XF86_SVGA Hungs in Apm_Sync()
> > >   45744  xserver-svga: Crashes console system with trio3d
> > >   47741  xserver-svga: gmc root icons in wmaker crash the X server
> > >   50624  xserver-svga: Hangs when switching to graphic mode
> > 
> > > Package: xserver-xsun (main)
> > > Maintainer: Branden Robinson <branden@debian.org>
> > >   45654  Xsun crashing
> > 
> > Branden, are you already working on fixing those bugs?

> No, these are the typical bad hardware support bugs in X servers that
> people think they can get fixed by upgrading them to release critical that
> we see every time we talk about releasing.

And can't we then downgrade them or close them? I think it's not very
good to let such bugs stay open at severity important or grave.

> Sorry, folks, I'm not that über.  I am not any DDX hacker, and I may never
> be.  If these aren't fixed upstream, they probably won't be fixed at all.

It's okay. Therefor, we are over 300 Developers, so I think we should be
able to find someone who could help with fixing those bugs.

Ciao
     Christian
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