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Bug#311724: marked as done (cdbs: Automatic update of debian/control, first paragraph, broken)

Your message dated Mon, 07 Apr 2025 14:56:24 +0000
with message-id <E1u1ntg-001dhX-N6@fasolo.debian.org>
and subject line Bug#311724: fixed in cdbs 0.4.171
has caused the Debian Bug report #311724,
regarding cdbs: Automatic update of debian/control, first paragraph, broken
to be marked as done.

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311724: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=311724
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Package: cdbs
Version: 0.4.30
Severity: normal

Hi Maintainer,

First of it: Im *not* after getting cdbs to die or something which I
already heard from some, it is *this* one mis-feature im against.

Im talking about the "Update Build-Depends on the fly" thing and the bad
things that it produces.

Sorry, but Packages with such autogenerated build-dependencies should
not go in our archive, for various reasons, the biggest one is:

- Modifying them on the fly can mean that they change without you noticing
  it. This is not bad for the actual built you do, but now think about later
  builds. Our autobuilders will get the changed Build-Dependencies and then
  may built a different thing.
  Or think about NMUs (eg. for RC fixes and stuff) or in worst case even
  security updates.

A few examples of autogenerated Build-Dependencies which I found in NEW
are (trimmed for line-size):
1: debhelper (>=4.2.0), cdbs (>=0.4.23-1.1), build-essential,
   debhelper (>=4.1.0), quilt, patchutils (>=0.2.25),
   cdbs (>=0.4.27-1), python-dev

  Note: I havent doubled the debhelper or cdbs ones, they ARE this way.

2: cdbs (>= 0.4.23-1.1), build-essential, debhelper (>= 4.1.0),
   patchutils (>= 0.2.25)
  Note: Here it is mainly b-e - maybe related to an older bug in cdbs,
   but still an example.

I could paste more, but would make mail unneccessary long. :)

A solution to this thing is simple:

  Add another target in the cdbs thing, that is *never* called automaic
  in the build-process, only if the maintainer runs it with debian/rules
  target and let that one do the update thingie. Of course maintainer
  needs to look if it is correct then.

The only exception from modifying something in the first paragraph of
debian/control is the uploaders field, as it would be insane for some big
group-maintained package to do that by hand, but thats it.


-- 
bye Joerg
"That's just f***ing great, now the bar for being a cool guy in free
software just got raised. It used to be you just had to write a million
lines of useful code. Now you've got to get a subpoena from SCO to be cool."

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Source: cdbs
Source-Version: 0.4.171
Done: Alexandre Detiste <tchet@debian.org>

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
cdbs, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive.

A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to 311724@bugs.debian.org,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

Debian distribution maintenance software
pp.
Alexandre Detiste <tchet@debian.org> (supplier of updated cdbs package)

(This message was generated automatically at their request; if you
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Format: 1.8
Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2025 15:19:34 +0200
Source: cdbs
Architecture: source
Version: 0.4.171
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian QA Group <packages@qa.debian.org>
Changed-By: Alexandre Detiste <tchet@debian.org>
Closes: 311724 315917 838873
Changes:
 cdbs (0.4.171) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * QA upload.
   * Remove DEB_AUTO_UPDATE_DEBIAN_CONTROL (Closes: #311724, #315917, #838873)
     See https://ftp-master.debian.org/REJECT-FAQ.html
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