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Bug#493090: libwxgtk2.8-0: unwanted dependency on libgconf


On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 11:28:28AM +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote:
> * Ryan Niebur <ryanryan52@gmail.com> [090805 10:23]:
> > or is the reason just that you are anti-GNOME?
> Could you please stop that "If you question what we do you are
> against us"? If you troll everbody until they have a hate for GNOME
> you might end up with everybody either loving what GNOMES does or having
> so many bad experiencies they feare everything GNOME related. But the
> world would be better for all if some constructivity would be allowed.

I honestly had no idea (until your points below) what harm a
dependency gconf causes. and they were saying that they wanted a "g
free" system, which made me think that there was no reason. maybe I
phrased it in a rude way, but my understanding from their requests were
that they didn't want that dependency simply because it was gnome, and
I did consider that unreasonable. sorry for sounding/being hostile.

> Some points in trying to get some more arguments in this discussion:
> 1) gconfd is not something everyone wants to run and people should have
>    that freedom.
> It's a kind of user-daemon running in the background, so people have a
> right to be uneasy about it. Also at least in the past its mode of
> starting and especially stopping by programs in an environment not fully
> GNOME was just horrible.  (Last time I had it installed with etch,
> I needed special scripts to terminate the hundreds of instances that
> were started but never stopped).
> 2) I wanted to write that the problem is not libgconf but the daemon
> package. But I do no longer know if this is true, as the daemon
> seems to be moved to the library package some time ago. (Having a
> library would make it harder for people to filter things, but I think
> it is totally acceptable to only have a library but nothing started by
> it).

ok, thanks for explaining. all I wanted was some real reasons why I
should work on this. now I have them, I will look into it...

> > is it possible to build with wxMediaCtrl disabled?
> > anyway, I'm assuming that some package uses wxMediaCtrl.
> > and I really don't want to go through the trouble to find out.
> Someone suggested before to make a seperate media package. If this
> also moved the gstreamer dependency to that package, that would be
> a nice step to reduce the dependencies of the libwx package quite a bit,
> making much more people profit from it.
> Some interesting point to decide how "reasonable" that is would be some
> information, how easy such a split would be. (I cannot find any
> information about this in this bug). If you do not know this, you could
> ask for help or patches.

it looks like I can just move the libwx_gtk2u_media-2.8.so.0 to a
different package, and possibly even build without passing
--enable-mediactrl. I grepped the source packages that build depend on
libwxgtk2.8-dev, and apparently none of them use wxMediaCtrl, so this
probably isn't even needed.


Ryan Niebur

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