Hi, On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 11:28:28AM +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > * Ryan Niebur <ryanryan52@gmail.com> [090805 10:23]: > > or is the reason just that you are anti-GNOME? > > Could you please stop that "If you question what we do you are > against us"? If you troll everbody until they have a hate for GNOME > you might end up with everybody either loving what GNOMES does or having > so many bad experiencies they feare everything GNOME related. But the > world would be better for all if some constructivity would be allowed. > I honestly had no idea (until your points below) what harm a dependency gconf causes. and they were saying that they wanted a "g free" system, which made me think that there was no reason. maybe I phrased it in a rude way, but my understanding from their requests were that they didn't want that dependency simply because it was gnome, and I did consider that unreasonable. sorry for sounding/being hostile. > Some points in trying to get some more arguments in this discussion: > > 1) gconfd is not something everyone wants to run and people should have > that freedom. > > It's a kind of user-daemon running in the background, so people have a > right to be uneasy about it. Also at least in the past its mode of > starting and especially stopping by programs in an environment not fully > GNOME was just horrible. (Last time I had it installed with etch, > I needed special scripts to terminate the hundreds of instances that > were started but never stopped). > > 2) I wanted to write that the problem is not libgconf but the daemon > package. But I do no longer know if this is true, as the daemon > seems to be moved to the library package some time ago. (Having a > library would make it harder for people to filter things, but I think > it is totally acceptable to only have a library but nothing started by > it). > ok, thanks for explaining. all I wanted was some real reasons why I should work on this. now I have them, I will look into it... > > is it possible to build with wxMediaCtrl disabled? > > anyway, I'm assuming that some package uses wxMediaCtrl. > > and I really don't want to go through the trouble to find out. > > Someone suggested before to make a seperate media package. If this > also moved the gstreamer dependency to that package, that would be > a nice step to reduce the dependencies of the libwx package quite a bit, > making much more people profit from it. > > Some interesting point to decide how "reasonable" that is would be some > information, how easy such a split would be. (I cannot find any > information about this in this bug). If you do not know this, you could > ask for help or patches. > it looks like I can just move the libwx_gtk2u_media-2.8.so.0 to a different package, and possibly even build without passing --enable-mediactrl. I grepped the source packages that build depend on libwxgtk2.8-dev, and apparently none of them use wxMediaCtrl, so this probably isn't even needed. Thanks, Ryan -- _________________________ Ryan Niebur ryanryan52@gmail.com
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