Re: Bug#507189: asterisk: Depends on libc-client2007b which is not in unstable
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On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 11:06:37AM +1100, Mark Purcell wrote:
>On Saturday 29 November 2008 10:28:44 Ben Hutchings wrote:
>> libc-client2007b has been replaced by libc-client2007d in unstable.
>Thanks Ben. As you state this only effects sid, not lenny which is
>(maybe) good for the rdepends.
>Are you intending for libc-client2007d to migrate to lenny? Your
>change log indicates that this maybe an important release. However I
>haven't seen any discussion on debian-release nor any coordination with
No, I have no plans to special-case uw-imap 2007d regarding the freeze
A security update contains virtually all of the contents of that new
>If not you upload makes life difficult for the rdepends as we can no
>longer upload any proposed lenny changes via unstable.
I believe this to be a general complication of a long freeze period. And
I believe it better to have such complication for developers at large
than burdening the release team with requests for special-casing to
bring Lenny in sync with Sid.
On the other hand, I do not see any problem in allowing newest uw-imap
into Lenny - now that release team is bothered about this issue after
If release do not want the Sid released package into Lenny, but instead
would want a specially crafted package only containing upstream changes
and not any possible updates to the cdbs packaging routines, then I see
no point in spending time on that: there is already a security update
>Has the ABI/API actually changed that has necessitated a new -dev
>package and lib package.
Historically, the uw-imap package was licensed requiring indication of
any derivative work in the naming of the files (as I interpreted it),
which is the reason for the current libname-based-on-package-version
License since changed, but I did not get around to changing the naming
scheme before the freeze.
It is worth noting that the very shared library is a Debian-specific
thing, discourages upstream. So there is no upstream soname, it is
As related security issue is that Alpine, using same codebase, uses its
own duplicate of the code instead of the shared library offered as
libc-clientXXX.so (its predecessor, the non-free pine, was patched to
link against our libc-client library, but I have so far failed to
convince the maintainer of alpine to the benefits of sharing code).
>As you maybe aware a new -dev package means that all rdepends must be
>changed and reloaded, whilst just a change in the lib package allows
Yes, I believe I do understand the issue of rdepends here.
>Could I ask you to coordinate with the rdepends and discuss/ file bugs
>for what you see as the way forward for integration with uw-imap.
As I do not intend to bump the version in Lenny, I fail to see the need
for coordination here. Please help me see the light if I somehow miss
your point - I _do_ want to cooperate. :-)
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