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Bug#272819: marked as done (too strong webmin-sendmail dependencies)



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Subject: too strong webmin-sendmail dependencies
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Package: webmin-sendmail
Version: stable,testing

The package depends on sendmail causing removal of other mta packages =
(i.e. postfix).
In a production server this can be very dangerous because installing a =
control tool modules can force removal of intalled, needed and used =
packages.=20
This should be done only for strictly necessary packages really =
conflicting with webmin but not extended to modules.
Installing all webmin modules should be possible without (except =
warning) put at risk the system=20
exactly as the original webmin (www.webmin.com) does.
In other words if I have a server using postfix I want to be able to =
install webmin-sendmail without harming the system; the webmin-sendmail =
simply will not work.

The problem is present in stable, testing and unstable versions.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Package: webmin-sendmail</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Version: stable,testing</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The package depends on sendmail causing =
removal of=20
other mta packages (i.e. postfix).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In a production server this can be very =
dangerous=20
because installing a control tool modules can force removal of intalled, =
needed=20
and used packages. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This&nbsp;should be done only&nbsp;for =
strictly=20
necessary packages really conflicting with webmin but not extended to=20
modules.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Installing all webmin modules should be =
possible=20
without (except warning) put at risk the system </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>exactly as the original webmin =
(www.webmin.com)=20
does.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In other words if I have a server using =
postfix I=20
want to be able to install webmin-sendmail without harming the system; =
the=20
webmin-sendmail simply will not work.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The problem is present in stable, =
testing and=20
unstable versions.</FONT></DIV>
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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 14:30:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Jaldhar H. Vyas" <jaldhar@debian.org>
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Subject: Re: too strong webmin-sendmail dependencies
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Sorry for the delaye response, I have actually orphaned this package.

On Wed, 22 Sep 2004, Marco Colnaghi wrote:

> Package: webmin-sendmail
> Version: stable,testing
>
> The package depends on sendmail causing removal of other mta packages
> (i.e. postfix). In a production server this can be very dangerous
> because installing a control tool modules can force removal of intalled,
> needed and used packages.

Then the administrator should be more careful doing upgrades on a
production server.

>  This should be done only for strictly
> necessary packages really conflicting with webmin but not extended to
> modules. Installing all webmin modules should be possible without
> (except warning) put at risk the system exactly as the original webmin
> (www.webmin.com) does. In other words if I have a server using postfix I
> want to be able to install webmin-sendmail without harming the system;
> the webmin-sendmail simply will not work.
>

The whole point of Debian packages is to give a more integrated, polished
setup than is possible with upstream versions. Dependencies are a part of
that.  Yes in some ways they make things inflexible for people with odd
needs, but in other ways they make it easier for the common user.

If you want the same experience as installing the tarball from
www.webmin.com, then use don't use the packages but install the tarball
from www.webmin.com in /usr/local.  I am closing this bug.

-- 
Jaldhar H. Vyas <jaldhar@debian.org>
La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/



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