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Re: Python related changes for unstable/squeeze



On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Josselin Mouette <joss@debian.org> wrote:
> Le mardi 17 février 2009 à 15:03 +0100, Bernd Zeimetz a écrit :
>> > - Can you guys please finally sit down and agree on one solution for
>> >   handling python modules? I still think that having two (slightly
>> >   different) ways of doing this task is not the way to go. I really do
>> >   not see technical reason for this situation. I have  no preference at
>> >   all and I'm actually using both things in my packages, but I really
>> >   do not think it is way to go. And it would be great if we can have
>> >   single tool, which gets more testing and will have less bugs than
>> >   current concurrent solutions.
>>
>> Ack. Please guys, get together, discuss it in a *sane* way (why do I fear that's
>> not possible...) and merge both tools or drop both of them and do something else
>> useful - together.
>
> You really can't say I'm not trying to discuss. But it takes at least
> two persons to discuss, and Matthias has been ignoring all technical
> discussions about Python packaging for years.
>
> This is not a technical problem. The technical divergences can be solved
> if consensus is reached about them or if a decision body (TC or GR)
> forces them. This is purely a person problem: Matthias is clearly not
> willing to maintain python-central correctly nor to make it evolve
> according to the needs of developers. These are two very good reasons to
> keep maintaining an alternative.

Unfortunately from both of you I only met Matthias in person (in
Prague at the Ubuntu Developer Summit), but what I understood is that
there are some technical reasons why python-central is better. But
those should be resolved by discussing it on the list, coming to a
consensus and then fixing it by merging the packages or starting from
scratch.

Josselin, it's true that if you were discussing with me in the same
tone as you are with Matthias, it will not make me very happy (as many
people have pointed out), but I appreciate that you discuss and reply
to criticisms and that's the most important.

So Matthias, please, try to come to this list and get this resolved
once and for all. Failing to discuss and pushing things your way is
bad.

Ondrej


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