Publicity team review workflow / Re: DebConf11 ends as another success for the Debian Project

[Filipus Klutiero <chealer@gmail.com>]

Hi Alexander,

On 2011-08-02 05:20, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote:
> Hi!
>
> * Filipus Klutiero<chealer@gmail.com>  [110801 22:24]:
>
> > I suggest to ask a review for press releases sent to debian-news, unless
> > there is something urgent. The publicity team can help with that:
> > http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Publicity
> > debian-l10n-english@lists.debian.org  may also help for strictly
> > linguistic issues.
> 1. Many thanks for telling _me_ how the publicity team works.
> 2. Don't send full quotes.
> 3. Don't CCc me, I read the list.
Note that I didn't Cc you, I put you in To.
> 4. You mean like the following:
>
> > From #debconf-team
> 18:30:14<  Tolimar>  svn+ssh://svn.debian.org/svn/publicity/announcements/en/2011/2011-07-30-debconf-finished.wml is the draft for the "DebConf finished" announcement.
> 18:30:35<  Tolimar>  Please review now (or remain for ever silent...) ;)
>
> > From #debian-publicity
> 18:29:05<  Tolimar>  Anyone:  Please review the announcement NOW.
>
> Or looking at the svn log:
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> r2510 | tolimar | 2011-07-30 19:26:54 +0200 (Sa, 30. Jul 2011) | 3 Zeilen
>
> Review by Maulkin
>
> [..]
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> r2506 | tolimar | 2011-07-30 18:39:47 +0200 (Sa, 30. Jul 2011) | 3 Zeilen
>
> Review by aurel32
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> r2505 | tolimar | 2011-07-30 18:38:32 +0200 (Sa, 30. Jul 2011) | 3 Zeilen
>
> Reviewed by "aspell -c -d en"
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> r2504 | madamezou | 2011-07-30 18:35:41 +0200 (Sa, 30. Jul 2011) | 1 Zeile
>
> fixed few typos
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> r2503 | tolimar | 2011-07-30 18:26:36 +0200 (Sa, 30. Jul 2011) | 3 Zeilen
>
> Review by aba
Yes. I didn't realize the announcement had so many reviews, it looked as 
if it hadn't been reviewed to me. I agree one would think reviews by all 
of these would ensure fair quality :-/ In this case, I would recommend 
to also ask a review from the publicity team in the future (which you 
already did this time, but - as explained on 
http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Publicity/DeveloperInformation - review 
should be asked on the mailing list, in general).

Publicity team: this incident makes me realize that some stuff can 
actually go through us with only a part of the team being noticed. I am 
subscribed to the debian-publicity list but didn't get any mail about 
the DebConf finished announcement. I just learn now that the team has an 
IRC channel. However, I'm not sure that's a real solution. I for one can 
hardly be on IRC 24-7. We also have the publicity-commits list, but that 
has over a hundred mails per month on average, which I find high for the 
volume of content we treat.

Do we have a better solution for this?
Should we change the workflow so that adding an announcement has to be 
accompanied by a mail to debian-publicity?
Would there be a way to have a lower-traffic list of automatic 
notifications, perhaps just for additions of content :-?
> You once wrote, you'll still as long as you are needed.  Apparently you
> are no longer needed.
I would be interested to know if this statement is based on anything.
>    So go away!
>
> Best Regards,
>    Alexander