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Re: XLibre in Debian



On Thursday, October 2, 2025 4:48:58 PM Mountain Standard Time Antoine Le 
Gonidec wrote:
> Le Thu, Oct 02, 2025 at 01:24:48PM -0700, Soren Stoutner a écrit :
> > (…) I am not accustomed to Debian categorically rejecting software
> > that is DFSG-free from inclusion based solely on the team that develops 
it.
> 
> To avoid confusion: I gave *my* opinion. My opinion as a Debian
> Developer, but still I am not Debian by myself.
> 
> As for why I strongly oppose the inclusion of this software into Debian,
> I won’t go into details so suffice to say that I am not willing to let
> Debian become a Nazi bar.
> 
> If you’re surprised by the use of such words, I suggest looking up why
> other distributions already rejected XLibre. I for myself do not have
> the energy (nor the will) to spend more time on XLibre than I already
> did writing the current e-mail.

Like I said, I know nothing about XLibre or its history.  But I think it is 
important to state here that I am categorically opposed to any software being 
excluded from Debian because of the politics of the developers (as long as 
those politics are not included in the software itself).

Excluding software because of the politics of the developers is both extremely 
dangerous and contrary to the spirit of the DFSG #5:

"No Discrimination Against Persons or Groups”

To be clear, I am not saying that anyone *has* to package this software.  
Also, I am not saying that Debian should accept any software that is below its 
technical standards (an argument that nobody has yet made regarding XLibre).  
However, based on what has been expressed so far in this thread, I would be 
opposed to anyone preventing *someone else* from packaging this for Debian if 
they so desired.  Perhaps there are further details about the developers that 
would change my mind, but if that is the case those details would need to be 
clearly explained.

-- 
Soren Stoutner
soren@debian.org

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