Greetings, * Russ Allbery (rra@debian.org) wrote: > Cord Beermann <cord@debian.org> writes: > > > As listmaster i can confirm that it is a big problem to deliver Mails to > > gmail/outlook/yahoo. Yahoo Subscribers are mostly gone by now because > > they bounced a lot, for gmail it is so much that we just ignore bounces > > because of those rules. > > Yes, I gave up for the mailing lists I run and just rewrite the From > address to be the address of the list and move the actual sender to > Reply-To, and I see other technical mailing lists like the glibc lists > have started doing this as well (using the built-in Mailman feature, which > can optionally do this only if the sender domain has SPF/DMARC records). The answer that we (PostgreSQL folks, at least) went with was to stop breaking DKIM because that's just a bad approach to take these days with mailing lists. If you're curious about what PostgreSQL and now SPI are using for our lists, it's called pgLister and is here: https://gitlab.com/pglister/pglister Others have hacked up mailman to make it stop breaking DKIM too (though it's pretty grotty how they did it, I'll admit). Yes, yes, I know that means a bunch of mailman features aren't available. We've managed to survive even without them. Thanks, Stephen
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