Re: Fortunes-off - do we need this as a package for Bookworm?
On Mon, 21 Nov 2022 at 00:59, Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 12:07:53AM +0100, Michael Neuffer wrote:
> >Am 20. November 2022 23:04:05 MEZ schrieb Mattia Rizzolo <mattia@debian.org>:
> >>On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 10:45:15PM +0100, Michael Neuffer wrote:
> >>> On 11/20/22 22:14, Roberto A. Foglietta wrote:
> >>> > On Sun, 20 Nov 2022 at 21:42, G. Branden Robinson
> >>> > <g.branden.robinson@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > > Thank you for, perhaps inadvertently, compelling me to review some of
> >>> > > the content of the package. I can now say that I am certain there is
> >>> > > material of worth in the fortunes-off package and support its retention
> >>> > > in the Debian distribution. A review process for individual entries
> >>> > > that are incompatible with the project's values is manifest in the BTS.
> >>> > >
> >>> > rational approach vs cancel culture: 1 vs 0
> >>> > <3
> >>>
> >>> I can only very much agree to this.
> >>
> >>I also wholly agree, alas it seems we already lost before this even
> >>started :(
> >>
> >>https://tracker.debian.org/news/1385116/accepted-fortune-mod-11991-72-source-amd64-all-into-unstable/
> >>
> >
> >As it was an NMU, this should be easily rectified.
> >Don't let cancel culture win.
>
> Are you volunteering to pick up the package and review its contents,
> removing the worst stuff that is clearly *not* fit for us to publish?
> In its previous state it included:
>
> * content that is downright illegal in many jurisdictions
Obviously illegal material should not be distributed. How many of
these quotes do you find that violate the law in some countries?
Please, keep in mind that in Germany the nazi propaganda is out-of-law
but in some other countires out-of-law is the use of the name of the
profet (whoever he is). So, law compliance might not be as easy as you
pretend to be unless OUR ONLY culture is considered (which by the
way?).
> * content that is impossible to justify against Debian's stated values
Nice, so we are going to burn "Mein Kampf" in such a way nobody will
be able to read it? Every library should do that, conforming to their
values. Burning books, uhm where we saw these before? So, the great
difference here is to explicitly tell the reader that the content can
be offensive in some culture or under some PoV.
This is exactly what the -o option does
-o Choose only from potentially offensive aphorisms.
Please, elaborate your opposition because it is quite generic,
everything above considered.
Best regards, R-
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