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RE: Proposal to deprecate and remove mailing list specific code of conduct



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I believe this proposal, at its core, has good value and is based on sound
logic.

My concern, however, is that despite the title "code of conduct" being used
on both instances, the Mailing List Code of Conduct (CoC) presents a number
of specific scenarios which are relevant to mailing lists but wouldn't make
sense if included in the Debian Code of Conduct.

In order to maintain the contextual difference between the CoCs, I suggest
the following:

- - Refine the Mailing List CoC as to remove any redundancies with the Debian
CoC.
- - Potentially rename the Mailing List CoC as to further reduce confusion.
  - I believe "mailing list etiquette" is a viable candidate.

Sergio Moraes
Data Management Analyst
Content & Knowledge Management Specialist

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 12:23 PM Andrew M.A. Cater <amacater@einval.com>
wrote:
Folks,

 We currently have a minimal Debian mailing list code of conduct at
 https://www.debian.org/MailingLists which is, essentially,
 primarily tips on how to format email. At the same time, we have the
 main Debian Code of Conduct at https://www.debian.org/code_of_conduct}
which
 is also referenced on the mailing lists page.

 This has the potential to be confusing and certainly the intent of the
 text overlaps in large part: is it now sensible to drop the mailing
 list code of conduct per se and refer only to the main Debian code of
 conduct in the future?

 The fewer resources we have to direct people to, have to keep up to
 date and to copy across various platforms then potentially the better.

 Note: For the avoidance of doubt: this is not an attempt to lessen the
 good effect of the mailing list code of conduct, which has been in effect
 for a long time, nor is it an excuse for another flame war as to
 whether/why we should have any code of conduct at all.

 The main Debian Code of Conduct, applicable to all Debian mailing lists,
 forums and public media is probably enough for all purposes, works well
and
 was passed into effect by a GR: in some sense, that's not negotiable.
 This is merely an attempt to simplify things a little
 particularly for folk new to Debian.

 Your thoughts on this would be very much appreciated

 With all the very best wishes to all, as ever,

 Andy Cater

 [Speaking on behalf of the Debian Community team: this content of this
email
 has also been reviewed by other members of the team]

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Sergio Moraes
Data Governance | Data Quality Analyst
Metadata Analyst
Phone: (734) 262-9830
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