Le mardi 31 décembre 2019 à 19:05:37+0900, Ansgar a écrit : > Ulrike, > > Ulrike Uhlig writes: > > Ansgar, > > > > On 31.12.19 09:50, Ansgar wrote: > >> threats of violence aren't welcome in Debian; if you cannot stop > >> yourself from wishing to beat up people, I would suggest to leave the > >> project. > > > > Stop! > > > > Expressing pain _is_ valid. > > Looks more like expressing "hate" (or "despise") to me... > > > Wanting to punch a wall is not beating up people. > > And Dato Simó said more than just wanting to punch a wall. > > > You completely > > modified and seemingly misunderstood (intentionally or not) what Dato said. > > So what is the "I wish I could say I would have charged against him" > supposed to suggest to the reader? > > Or the repeated writings how much "despise" there is for other people? > Or how much the "blood boils" because of "rage"? Does that leave the > impression of a non-violent person that it is (physically) safe to be > around, including at real life events? (For me: "no") > > > It's not up to you to suggest to anyone to leave the project. > > Is that up to Dato? > > > Stop this now. > > Sorry, but I read that expressing pain _is_ valid. Okay. Please everyone, chill out. This thread is raising a lot of intense emotional feeling and at the same time, some people, willing to prevent things from escalating are somehow making things worse. Yes, there were things said that are grave and potentially unacceptable and that should never have been said. But there is no way in the current state of the discussion to make people realize that. Instead, we're throwing rocks each one to another, and except being hurt or breaking good relationships over feelings, nothing good will come out from this. So, as Sam, I wish to hope that people with enough good sense here will hear my demand and *at least* think thrice before posting. Debian, and each of you is much more than this. Happy new year. -- Pierre-Elliott Bécue GPG: 9AE0 4D98 6400 E3B6 7528 F493 0D44 2664 1949 74E2 It's far easier to fight for one's principles than to live up to them.
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