Re: enforcement first, ask questions later?
Daniel Pocock - 03.02.19, 08:38:
> This reveals a lot about the serious problems in Debian right now.
> Did we really sign up to be part of an experiment like that? I
> didn't.
>
> Why do certain people want to start out with enforcement, skipping
> over normal human relations, avoiding meetings for almost a year,
> assuming they always know who is at fault?
Quite bold accusations, Daniel.
And in yet another thread about what seems to be about the same topic
than in about half a dozen or even a dozen of threads before this
thread. If the previous threads did not give you the results you wanted,
how do you come to believe that this new thread will?
Did you actually aim at talking with the people you accuse? Did you
contact them personally by mail *before* writing these bold accusations
to the list?
Our even more clearly: Are *you* even interested in really talking
*with* them, instead of just *about* them?
That written, I do not have any firm opinion on how true your or the
story of anyone else who is involved in that is. In the end, they are
all just that, *stories*. None of it is absolutely true or absolutely
wrong.
For me, to exit the current approach of accusing each other is to assume
good intentions and really notice that there is no fault in life. There
are certainly correct and incorrect decisions and different opinions on
what those are, but how would it be if what happened is simply just
that, is simply just what happened? And what if, just what if it is no
one's fault, but just a result of a large group of people having
different opinions and viewpoints of how to work together and struggling
to find a consensus on how it can work out?
What if, just what if you just for a moment stop giving your power to
other people by accusing them have done wrong to you or Norbert? The
more you do that, the more you just keep repeating the same pattern over
and over and over again.
And now I breathe deeply and let go wanting to control what you do or
how you do it. You do what you do, you do it the way you do it… and it
is totally up to you, whether you like to receive anything of what I
wrote here and take it as an inspiration, or not. It is totally up to
you whether you continue to give your power away like this, or stop
doing that and look inside for intuitive guidance and clear reason. And
it is totally up to me whether I even respond to any further mails like
this one.
Thank you.
--
Martin
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