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Re: Suggested Means for Non-technical Users to Realize RFPs (was: Question)



On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 12:23:57AM -0700, Afif Elghraoui wrote:
> The user can file an RFP, but nobody usually has the spare time to take
> it up solely because of someone's request. Perhaps we as a project can

True, but RFP work as a promotion, too. Its not like anyone could claim
to know the entire internet, so "even" non-technical users can stumble
upon a gem someone more technical inclined would be very happy to
package (as (s)he would use it, too) if only (s)he would know it exists.

Also, even if non-technical now, that might very well be a good moment
to change that. After all, it is for your own good… also most people
aren't born as Debian contributors, so that isn't an uncommon path.


> suggest to users the crowdfunding the development of a package, where
> interested users can pool together funds, enabling a DD or other
> interested Debian contributor to actually make the package and integrate
> it into Debian.

The usual caveats of bugbounties apply: Who is to decide who gets the
money & how do you prevent encouraging contributors [even more] to
prefer packaging shiny new stuff instead of caring about already
packaged stuff. Now it would even make economical sense to upload
a package with the intention to let it molder until ftp-masters remove
it as unmaintained from the archive as at that point you can collect
funds again to run the next update round. If you don't believe that
a bit of money could attract such kinds of behaviour, feel free to ask
GSoC admins/mentors what they have to deal with…

Even if we assume none of our current contributors can be that easily
spoiled, for every new contributor you would need to judge the intention
and a failure to detect the bad apples incurs a heavy fee on everyone
who ends up needing to deal with the fallout like QA, FTP, release
& security teams. None of them being on your initial payroll.


It is claimed that when reporters asked astronaut Alan Shepard what he
thought about as he sat in a rocket ready for take off, he replied "The
fact that every part of this ship was built by the lowest bidder".
I don't want to say that about our package repository.


If you must, fund a person/group instead. Thankfully you can do that
quite easily already: Donate to Debian. If you will, Debian even runs
a bounty program: Valuable contributions of all kinds can gain you perks
like DD status, free access to otherwise expensive hardware,
a dependable peer group for social support and even monetary
sponsorships in various forms to attend DebConf and sprints.


Best regards

David Kalnischkies

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