On November 29, 2014 12:55:16 PM EST, Svante Signell <srs@kth.se> wrote: >Unfortunately it is mandatory, not only the default :( >New installs: yes, upgrades: probably, we'll know December 4. Odds for >a >non-systemd upgrade are low :( Maybe join devuan instead? There's been a number of blog posts recently that describe how to install Jessie with sysvinit as the init system. Your facts are wrong, but go where you will. I'm done with this thread. Scott K