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Re: a SIP or XMPP service for debian.org



This one time, at band camp, Daniel Pocock said:
> On 22/12/13 10:52, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
> > On Sun Dec 22, 2013 at 10:44:08 +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> >>
> >> I've started a wiki on this topic, it provides a detailed plan from
> >> start to finish:
> >>
> >> https://wiki.debian.org/UnifiedCommunications/DebianDevelopers
> >>
> >> As one of the leading free software projects and given Debian's
> >> particularly outspoken attitude that we do not rely on third party
> >> "free" services there are compelling reasons to try and finally
> >> implement this entirely using our own packages and infrastructure.
> >>
> >> * do people generally agree with it?
> >>
> >> * would the DSA team be willing to provide and support the underlying
> >> infrastructure for this or have it on any existing servers?
> > 
> > zobel@kvasir ~ % ldapsearch -LLL -x -H ldap://db.debian.org -b ou=hosts,dc=debian,dc=org '(host=cilea)' purpose
> > dn: host=cilea,ou=hosts,dc=debian,dc=org
> > purpose: voip.debian.{net,org}
> > zobel@kvasir ~ % 
> > 
> > For more details, please contact Phil Hands.
> 
> I've had some ongoing discussions with Phil but ultimately, like SMTP
> for debian.org, these things would need to be formally accepted by DSA
> at some point.

Sure.  I think maybe this is turning into some sort of comic loop.  The
understanding on the DSA side, as far as I'm aware, is that the VOIP
setup on cilea is still a bit fragile and not ready for wider
deployment.  If that's not the case, letting us know that it's ready for
widespread adoption would be a good start.  If it is the case, I think
we're expecting the people interested in VOIP for debian to make it
ready for prime time before anything else happens.  If you/fil/whoever
else is involved have a different deployment strategy, I think we'd like
to hear about it.

> Amongst other things, Phil commented on the password situation but it is
> ultimately up to the LDAP administrator to decide whether H(A1) hashed
> passwords are supported and whether they can be accessed by these processes.

I don't think we want to use regular LDAP bind, if we can help it.
For some other things, we've introduced <service>Password (we have a sudo
password field and so on).  Is it possible to do a similar thing for VOIP?

> cilea.debian.org is just one host located in Europe - it is good to
> start with.  Once it is all running, the TURN processes would probably
> need to be set up in additional regions - are we likely to have
> resources for that or is this something that would take resources away
> from other initiatives?

We have hosting in several places.  Depending on how much resource these
servers need and how difficult the deployment is, I can't imagine it
should be an impossible problem.

Cheers,
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