WG: Note to "Did you already MOO today..."
Dear Manoj Srivastava, dear Debain Project,
Concerning the discussion I began I risc one more note, because I found one
more bug on my side:
The sentence on my side:
Of course, if you separate joke religion from true religion completely then
you must say:
I appreciate your believe as a form of serious religion but I only wanted
to make a joke on my behalf.
is not correct enough, better is:
Of course, if you separate joke religion from true religion completely then
_one as an inventor of joke religion_ must say:
I appreciate your believe as a form of serious religion but I only wanted
to make a joke on my behalf.
or:
Of course, if you separate joke religion from true religion completely then
_you should_ say:
I appreciate your believe as a form of serious religion, _joke religion we
should address as a bad joke, not religion_.
Sorry for this. "you" was not ment to be addressed to you actually.
One more idea:
Please distinguish between Software Development Guidelines for free
software and the philosophies or even ideologies that a developer of
software offers within or in connection with software.
As far as I know are the Debian Free Software Guidelines (DFSG) very sane
and good.
Software to my opinion is sort of an instrument like a hammer or a plier
(of course more compex ones than hammer or plier) one can use for good as
well as for evil. But this again is the responsibility of the user, not of
the developer.
I hope, I did not judge too much!
Yours sincerely
Jakob Johannes Blaette
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Jakob Johannes Blätte [SMTP:Jakob-Johannes.Blaette@i-dial.de]
Gesendet am: Samstag, 11. November 2006 11:44
An: 'Manoj Srivastava'
Cc: 'secretary@debian.org'; 'Debian Project'; 'jgg@ualberta.ca'
Betreff: AW: Note to "Did you already MOO today..."
Dear Manoj Srivastava,
thank you for your answer.
See annotations in the original message.
Yours sincerely
Jakob Johannes Blaette
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Manoj Srivastava [SMTP:srivasta@acm.org]
Gesendet am: Freitag, 10. November 2006 15:55
An: Jakob Johannes Blaette
Cc: secretary@debian.org; Debian Project
Betreff: Re: Note to "Did you already MOO today..."
Hi,
On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 09:51:35 +0100, Jakob Johannes Blaette
<Jakob-Johannes.Blaette@i-dial.de> said:
> Hello, Debain, first of all thank you for the Distribution of DEBIAN
> that I appreciate.
Thanks.
> I am Computer Scientist and have roman catholic believe so I'm also
> thankful f.ex. that Debian offers a Web Browser called "Epiphany
> Browser".
I doubt that the naming had something to do with religion,
really.
> But I could also find a program that can produce the comment "Did
> you already MOO today...?". Now I found that "MOO" can mean a text
> based online virtual system but as well "MOOism" that is a joke
> religion (please see f.ex. wikipedia.org). Or is the meaning only
> harmess in the meaning of cows?
Hard to say, I don't think this has much to do with the text
based game, and something to do with cows is also unlikely. However,
that is not to say that the only explanation left is "MOOism", though
that can't be ruled out. Perhaps there is some humour here that I am
missing.
OK, this is your opinion. Actually the program I ment is apt-get. I sent a
question to the author.
> To my opinion it can be bad for our world if joke religion gets lot
> of influence in our world with the distribution of well known
> software.
Well, that depends. One person's joke is another person's
honest belief. And then there are people who strongly believe that
any mention of a deity is mere superstition, who would consider _any_
religion a joke. I don't think it is correct to sit in judgement and
say which belief has merit and which is a joke. And once you start
with MOOism, where do you stop? Is pastafarianism and the FSM next?
Actually I think that the inventors of joke religion already judge saying
religion as such is a joke.
This is so because they disregard the religious feelings of others when
mocking on true religion.
This is so because of the suggestion, when a well known software propagates
joke religion, it is allowed to make a joke out of religion.
And this is so, when many people accept this ideas without thinking and
following the simple but wrong ideas that say: "Why religion?" or "Strange
ideas in religion, I don't (want to) understand", f.ex. because a software
is well known.
Of course, if you separate joke religion from true religion completely then
you must say:
I appreciate your believe as a form of serious religion but I only wanted
to make a joke on my behalf.
> Please tell me, if this comment in this program can be made less
> ambiguous.
Please take that up with the authors of the program.
manoj
--
Well thaaaaaaat's okay.
Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@acm.org> <http://www.golden-gryphon.com/>
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